Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Gotta Bertoni?

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Gotta Bertoni?

Old 10-28-19, 08:10 PM
  #1  
señor miembro
Thread Starter
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 8,486

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3699 Post(s)
Liked 6,120 Times in 3,044 Posts
Gotta Bertoni?

Let's see 'em.

Here's mine, an '81 (?) Superlight.














.
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 10-28-19, 10:33 PM
  #2  
Banned.
 
Drillium Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PAZ
Posts: 12,394
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2586 Post(s)
Liked 4,819 Times in 1,709 Posts
Oh, yeah - that's what I'm talking about! That looks pretty early, too, compared to most we've seen around here. Score!

I like the fluted seatstay caps and the lug windows. Seatpost looks to have received some major attention. Any slots or whatnot in the BB shell? Sweet wrap job on those bars, too. Looking forward to seeing this one in person in the not-too-distant future

DD
Drillium Dude is offline  
Likes For Drillium Dude:
Old 10-29-19, 03:24 AM
  #3  
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,480

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 189 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2804 Post(s)
Liked 2,477 Times in 1,329 Posts
Gotta Bertoni? Well it just so happens one landed on my door step a few weeks ago
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Likes For Bianchigirll:
Old 10-29-19, 05:19 AM
  #4  
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,915
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1136 Post(s)
Liked 586 Times in 420 Posts
I still haven't fixed the TT cable guide on the '86 Corsa Mondiale I got on the 'bay a couple years back. Bike is missing a couple of decals (head tube, top tube) but is otherwise impeccable. Came with owners manual.

Ancient album off Imgur from day of arrival, I don't have any more-recent pics to share: https://imgur.com/a/19uyK


Last edited by francophile; 01-22-22 at 11:48 AM.
francophile is offline  
Likes For francophile:
Old 10-29-19, 06:15 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,233
Mentioned: 649 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,020 Times in 1,864 Posts
Yes, it's definitely in the very late 1970s to very early 1980s time frame based on the Portacatena dropout. Most of the later samples that we seen have an open format serial number that make it easy to determine the year of manufacture.
T-Mar is offline  
Likes For T-Mar:
Old 10-29-19, 06:24 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,649

Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,

Mentioned: 150 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2250 Post(s)
Liked 4,367 Times in 1,613 Posts
Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Gotta Bertoni? Well it just so happens one landed on my door step a few weeks ago
Loving this paint job!!!!!
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
jamesdak is offline  
Likes For jamesdak:
Old 10-29-19, 11:43 AM
  #7  
señor miembro
Thread Starter
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 8,486

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3699 Post(s)
Liked 6,120 Times in 3,044 Posts
Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Seatpost looks to have received some major attention.
Yeah, it has a Nuovo Record type 2-bolt clamp, but no engraving anywhere. Very strange.

Any slots or whatnot in the BB shell?
Two slots.
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 12:06 PM
  #8  
Groupetto Dragon-Ass
 
Chuckk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lostin Austin, TX
Posts: 554
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Liked 647 Times in 335 Posts
Found a few detail photos of my old Bertoni, long gone. The only pinned construction bike I know of owning.


Chuckk is offline  
Likes For Chuckk:
Old 10-29-19, 04:28 PM
  #9  
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,480

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 189 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2804 Post(s)
Liked 2,477 Times in 1,329 Posts
When I posted pics of the "Speckled Trout" Bertoni over in the FB Steel is Real page someone made a comment about some Bertonis being built by Bianchi. I replied and he replied and he ended up posting this. Some of you uh um... more experienced guys might know how true this is or isn't.

I replied that Ben Lawee was an interesting guy and he posted this.

" " Trina B; He was the importer for Motobecane in the '60's and early '70's. He was diagnosed with cancer in the early '70's and given 6 months to live. He sold the importing business and retired to his home in Long Beach CA. 6 months later he was doing fine and bored as hell. So he went to Bianchi in Italy and specced (he was very active in the geometry and design) a half dozen bikes. He took them to Interbike in Long Beach. He branded them Italvega and by the end of the first day he had sold all of them and signed a dozen or so dealer agreements. He lived for more than 10 years and created Univega to take advantage of the quality and advancements of Japanese frames and components. Not to mention cost. But he had a soft spot for Italian stuff and the success of Univega gave him the wherewithal to create Bertoni." "
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 10-29-19, 06:28 PM
  #10  
señor miembro
Thread Starter
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 8,486

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3699 Post(s)
Liked 6,120 Times in 3,044 Posts
It's high time someone took a stab at making a biopic with the best '70s/early '80s film soundtrack evah.
SurferRosa is offline  
Likes For SurferRosa:
Old 10-29-19, 10:47 PM
  #11  
Stop reading my posts!
 
unworthy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,781
Mentioned: 88 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1347 Post(s)
Liked 921 Times in 699 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Let's see 'em.

Here's mine, an '81 (?) Superlight.














.
Yep, that's a early example, note the font used for "Superlight" on the top tube: right out of the Univega styleguide (if there was one)!
unworthy1 is offline  
Likes For unworthy1:
Old 10-30-19, 06:17 AM
  #12  
Full Member
 
Honusms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 231

Bikes: More than my husband knows about

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 87 Post(s)
Liked 44 Times in 18 Posts
Here’s my ‘81 Superlight, post addition of SRAM Force 10 speed components. Very quick and nimble bike!




Honusms is offline  
Likes For Honusms:
Old 10-30-19, 04:41 PM
  #13  
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,418

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 503 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7136 Post(s)
Liked 2,082 Times in 1,238 Posts
Tasteful and not gaudy.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Likes For noglider:
Old 05-04-20, 09:11 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Liked 120 Times in 44 Posts
All beautiful bikes!! Bertoni Corsa Mondial. Does anyone know the model year? Just committed to building it from this newly acquired frameset. It'll be treated to Dura Ace 7400. Expect updates.

Last edited by Alsobay; 05-04-20 at 10:20 PM.
Alsobay is offline  
Old 05-04-20, 09:31 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Liked 120 Times in 44 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Let's see 'em.

Here's mine, an '81 (?) Superlight.














.
beautiful bike!! Thanks for the invite.
Alsobay is offline  
Old 05-04-20, 10:29 PM
  #16  
Cat 6
 
Ex Pres's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mountain Brook, AL
Posts: 7,509
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 498 Post(s)
Liked 170 Times in 112 Posts
Originally Posted by Alsobay
All beautiful bikes!! Bertoni Corsa Mondial. Does anyone know the model year? Just committed to building it from this newly acquired frameset. It'll be treated to Dura Ace 7400. Expect updates.
your year should be easy to determine from the serial numbers on the BB shell.
Ex Pres is offline  
Old 05-05-20, 08:57 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Mr. 66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,329
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1080 Post(s)
Liked 1,584 Times in 892 Posts
I sold this one a few weeks ago.


Nouvitalia
Mr. 66 is offline  
Likes For Mr. 66:
Old 05-10-20, 01:01 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
velomateo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: California
Posts: 977

Bikes: '87 Serotta Colorado,'96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Liked 296 Times in 137 Posts
This fillet brazed, Columbus Max, Bertoni has been getting a bunch of road time since I acquired it a few months ago.



Last edited by velomateo; 05-10-20 at 03:34 PM.
velomateo is offline  
Likes For velomateo:
Old 05-10-20, 05:45 PM
  #19  
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,480

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 189 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2804 Post(s)
Liked 2,477 Times in 1,329 Posts
Originally Posted by velomateo
This fillet brazed, Columbus Max, Bertoni has been getting a bunch of road time since I acquired it a few months ago.





Beautiful. Please show us more.
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 05-10-20, 05:50 PM
  #20  
Edumacator
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,906

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2239 Post(s)
Liked 2,680 Times in 1,718 Posts
Originally Posted by velomateo
This fillet brazed, Columbus Max, Bertoni has been getting a bunch of road time since I acquired it a few months ago.


How do you like the Columbus Max?
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super












jdawginsc is offline  
Old 05-11-20, 08:02 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
velomateo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: California
Posts: 977

Bikes: '87 Serotta Colorado,'96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Liked 296 Times in 137 Posts
jdawginsc I like it very much. I had read somewhere that the MAX tubeset was better matched to larger riders, because it was so stiff, but I'm not convinced. I'm not that big, only 165 lb.s, and I find it rides great for me...not too stiff at all. I'm very pleased with the build and parts I selected for this. I did have to change out the front derailleur cable, because I had it too tight and I had cut it too short to adjust it out where it needed to be. Now that everything is sorted on the bike, I just love it.

Last edited by velomateo; 05-11-20 at 07:14 PM.
velomateo is offline  
Old 05-19-20, 09:49 PM
  #22  
señor miembro
Thread Starter
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 8,486

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3699 Post(s)
Liked 6,120 Times in 3,044 Posts
The Superlight got a lot more super after I swapped out the chainrings and rear mech with Super Record.


[Under I-5 at South Passage Point Park, Seattle]
​​​​​​
SurferRosa is offline  
Likes For SurferRosa:
Old 05-20-20, 09:18 AM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
velomateo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: California
Posts: 977

Bikes: '87 Serotta Colorado,'96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Liked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Super Record chain rings are such an aesthetic improvement from Nouvo Record. Such a great looking bike, and you could give a class on how to wrap handle bars.
velomateo is offline  
Likes For velomateo:
Old 05-23-20, 07:21 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,336
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 767 Post(s)
Liked 1,890 Times in 888 Posts
@SurferRosa, just a very pleasing bike to look at, and I'm sure to ride as well. Love the thin red finishing tape on that nice blue cotton. Beautiful.
BFisher is offline  
Likes For BFisher:
Old 08-13-20, 05:30 PM
  #25  
señor miembro
Thread Starter
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 8,486

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3699 Post(s)
Liked 6,120 Times in 3,044 Posts
Over the weekend, scored a Campagnolo aero seatpost (Victory, maybe?) and MA40 dark anodized wheels in incredible shape.


.
Woulda thought the seat tube ID was 27.0, but the new seatpost is marked 27.2 and measures 27.1 in spots. Fits great.
SurferRosa is offline  
Likes For SurferRosa:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.