Cherubim Sportif fillet-brazed
Another Cherubim has found its way into my hands. I've been loving my recently-completed 1980ish Cherubim Super Tourer so I found a "V" model also around 1980ish. While the Super Tourer was the 650B randonneur model, the "V" was a 700C sportif. It could be specced with sidepulls or centerpulls - this particular frame has braze-ons for mounting centerpulls directly, and clearance for about 700x33mm tires. It's fillet-brazed. I believe the dropouts were made in-house by Cherubim. This frame was advertised as new old stock, which it looks to be.
After chasing the BB threads and sanding the paint off the centerpull bosses, I'll start assembly with some MAFAC Competition brakes and a Maxicar/Mavic wheelset from around 1980. The rest of the build is up in the air. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b36b7706_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8a63bc67_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9a3dfd00_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4342213d_b.jpg |
Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
(Post 21227358)
Another Cherubim has found its way into my hands. I've been loving my recently-completed 1980ish Cherubim Super Tourer so I found a "V" model also around 1980ish. While the Super Tourer was the 650B randonneur model, the "V" was a 700C sportif. It could be specced with sidepulls or centerpulls - this particular frame has braze-ons for mounting centerpulls directly, and clearance for about 700x33mm tires. It's fillet-brazed. I believe the dropouts were made in-house by Cherubim. This frame was advertised as new old stock, which it looks to be.
After chasing the BB threads and sanding the paint off the centerpull bosses, I'll start assembly with some MAFAC Competition brakes and a Maxicar/Mavic wheelset from around 1980. The rest of the build is up in the air. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b36b7706_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8a63bc67_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9a3dfd00_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4342213d_b.jpg |
Pardon my ignorance, but I have never heard of the marque. That looks like a superb touring bike.
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Now that's something you don't see so often.
You've caught my attention, that's for sure. Pretty frameset. |
That finish work is so good, it is out of this world.
Plus, that thin paint just adds to the "OMG" factor when you realize how absolutely perfect everything underneath has to be for no flaws to show up at the edges. Also in awe of the multi-tabbed dropout. Downright brilliant. -Kurt |
Originally Posted by John E
(Post 21227379)
Pardon my ignorance, but I have never heard of the marque. That looks like a superb touring bike.
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Beautiful!
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Great looking frame
Thanks for the information |
That is a seriously cool bike - love the concept of wide tire sports tourer with direct mount center pulls.
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Another stunner TenGrainBread :thumb: can't wait to see it all build up!
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Finished the build tonight. Some night time hallway pictures:
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Build list:
Wheels: 700C Mavic MA2 rims laced to Maxicar hubs Freewheel: Maillard 700 Course 6 speed Chain: Izumi 6 speed Tires: Soma Supple Vitesse 33mm Headset: Tange Levin Royal Stem: SR Royal Handlebars: Atax Philippe Professional Brake levers: Suntour Superbe Brakes: MAFAC Competition braze-on centerpulls Shifters: Suntour Cyclone 1st gen Rear derailleur: Suntour Cyclone 1st gen short cage Front derailleur: Suntour Superbe Pro Crankset: TA Pro 3 pin with Stronglight BIS rings (48-38) Seatpost: American Classic titanium Saddle: Brooks Pro titanium |
Beautiful bike! Love those drilled rings on the TA 3-pin crankset.
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Very pretty! But it needs silver fenders, doesn't it? Or is that just me....
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I purchased a pair of the Soma tires too- I have yet to install them- look good.
do the brazed on mounts present the brakes farther forward? windering about the cable to the outside routing at the yoke. |
Gorgeous - and I second Neal's comment about the 3-pin TA with the Stronglight rings. A really nice touch.
Funny, rhm - I found some hammered 700C fenders at the LBS today; instantly thought of them when I saw this build. They're super narrow though. -Kurt |
That is freakin' gorgeous. And it pushes me just that little bit closer towards a fillet-brazed frame someday. Nice.
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Well, that’s beautiful...
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Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21244749)
I purchased a pair of the Soma tires too- I have yet to install them- look good.
do the brazed on mounts present the brakes farther forward? windering about the cable to the outside routing at the yoke. I don't think the brakes are much farther forward than the standard mount with the stirrup/adapter plate. Regarding the straddle yoke- I reversed the hardware so the cable could be clamped on the opposite side of the straddle. Just makes installation and adjustment slightly easier because the straddle and brake cable aren't competing for space behind the yoke. Saw this trick somewhere, don't remember. |
Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 21244730)
Very pretty! But it needs silver fenders, doesn't it? Or is that just me....
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Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
(Post 21244830)
I've used these Soma SV tires in wider widths before and they're great.
I don't think the brakes are much farther forward than the standard mount with the stirrup/adapter plate. Regarding the straddle yoke- I reversed the hardware so the cable could be clamped on the opposite side of the straddle. Just makes installation and adjustment slightly easier because the straddle and brake cable aren't competing for space behind the yoke. Saw this trick somewhere, don't remember. This is with Mafac's where the straddle wire is also essentially the quick release to open the caliper for wheel removal. The downside of Mafac is the cable pinch bolt can rotate, and must be secured when tightening the bolt... Weinmann and Dia-Compe had cable bolts that have don't twist, the job is a bit easier. |
That is such a nice bike all around. I could look at it all day.
What's that bar tape? It looks thick, but wider than Newbaum's, or maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me. |
Originally Posted by BFisher
(Post 21245227)
That is such a nice bike all around. I could look at it all day.
What's that bar tape? It looks thick, but wider than Newbaum's, or maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me. |
Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
(Post 21245253)
Thanks! It's Velo Orange thick cotton tape, so yes, wider and slightly thicker.
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Changed the saddle and put some placeholder pedals on for the first real test ride. Feels good. Probably downsize the tires to 28s, fenders, and tilt the saddle up a bit.
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