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Hagiadiz 12-02-19 01:03 PM

Can you help me identify the Bike?
 
Hello, I have this bike, but I donīt know what brand it is... I found some info that may be the Viking frame with Nervex professional lugs. But Im not sure if it is Viking or not. It comes with 2 pairs of wheels Campa hubs and Duralca rims. Other components are campy. Does anybody know about this frame? Thank you... Campagnolo seatpost is 27. Campagnolo English theads.

MiloFrance 12-02-19 01:08 PM

No photos, no clue. 27.0 is Columbus SP size amongst others, but that's about all you're going to get. I'm sure someone will be along in a sec with a photo assist...
:)

CO_Hoya 12-02-19 01:28 PM

Pic assist. Plenty more in OP's gallery (link).

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5c41ef31cc.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d91949878.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...78a66a1c84.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e829b05aae.jpg

non-fixie 12-02-19 03:18 PM

Pretty bike. Very well-proportioned. Looks like it was made for a rider named "C. Kern":

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b4aebb99a6.jpg

Did a quick search, but haven't found him. Whatever it is, it looks quite decent. Enjoy!

unworthy1 12-02-19 08:10 PM

Kern could be a Swiss surname, cannot tell from the shot of the head tube whether there are any filled-in holes for a headbadge, but I believe a Viking would have had a badge (correct?)

USAZorro 12-03-19 07:15 AM

The style of the fork is a bit reminiscent of some that Viking made. The seat stay treatment - considerably less so.

T-Mar 12-03-19 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by MiloFrance (Post 21230452)
No photos, no clue. 27.0 is Columbus SP size amongst others, but that's about all you're going to get. I'm sure someone will be along in a sec with a photo assist...
:)

Assuming that it is Columbus, a 27.0mm post of a track frame with round section fork blades would be representative of PS rather than SP.

SL = strada, leggera = road, light
SP = strada, pesante = road, heavy
PS = pista, sprint = track, sprint
PL = pista, leggera = track, light

Assuming the fork is OEM to the frame, a Columbus tubeset can be verified by the presence of a Columbus steerer tube, which will have Columbus' dove logo stamped on the outside and five helical ridges on the inside, at the bottom.

verktyg 12-03-19 03:41 PM

BB Numbers
 
Numbers stamped into the BB shell are the angles not a serial number. Maybe the seat lug too but can't read it clearly.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3c182e025a.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...83c72cbbdb.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e44c9856e6.jpg

verktyg :50:

unworthy1 12-03-19 11:40 PM

From what I can tell the seat lugs has at least "73" and then another mark which may be the degree "•" or possibly another digit, but I'd bet it's a degree symbol. And the pinch bolt says "ITALY".

non-fixie 12-04-19 02:50 PM

"C. Kern" wouldn't be just any amateur to have had such a bike made, methinks. How about giving Christophe Kern a call?

verktyg 12-04-19 07:14 PM

Early 70's Track Bike
 

Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 21233399)
"C. Kern" wouldn't be just any amateur to have had such a bike made, methinks. How about giving Christophe Kern a call?

Based on the components and the Nervex lugs, I'd say that this bike was being ridden 10 years before Christophe Kern was born... :50:

verktyg :foo:

Hagiadiz 12-05-19 07:27 AM

Guys, thank you so much... I will upload more photos when I will have a right to upload it ! thank you

Hagiadiz 12-05-19 07:30 AM

There are some photos in that link in second reply, photos of the wheels and rims... the colors may be colors of Belgium (I am not sure) ... and there is a JS on the rims... maybe som cyclist but I dont know...

unworthy1 12-05-19 09:20 AM

No idea what the "JS" on one rim could mean, or the big "A" on one hub barrel but that hub is a Campagnolo. My guess is those letters are some after-market decals that some previous owner used to personalize the wheel(s) and neither seems to have any connection to "C. Kern" (dontcha think?)

Hagiadiz 12-05-19 09:27 AM

We dont even know what c.kern means so...

repechage 12-05-19 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 21232021)
Assuming that it is Columbus, a 27.0mm post of a track frame with round section fork blades would be representative of PS rather than SP.

SL = strada, leggera = road, light
SP = strada, pesante = road, heavy
PS = pista, sprint = track, sprint
PL = pista, leggera = track, light

Assuming the fork is OEM to the frame, a Columbus tubeset can be verified by the presence of a Columbus steerer tube, which will have Columbus' dove logo stamped on the outside and five helical ridges on the inside, at the bottom.

The fork uses the "22mm" blades... the PL tube set. but the seatpost if correctly sized, the seat tube could be PS.

Reasonably clean workmanship. those crowns could receive or not get various cuts to them from the foundry. This one is more on the plain side.

Threading type may provide a Nationality.

Ignore the KERN, the bike has been repainted.... got a stamp set?

Hagiadiz 12-05-19 09:30 AM

How do you know that it was repainted? and what do you mean "stamp set"?

MezzoLew 04-13-20 12:42 AM

Viking Head Tube Badge
 

Originally Posted by CO_Hoya (Post 21230489)
Pic assist. Plenty more in OP's gallery (link).




https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e829b05aae.jpg

I have a head tube badge (NOS) for a Viking if you want to add it to your bike. I has a Viking as my first drop bar racing bike when I was 14 and loved it.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...204e3b5e9c.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...02775de348.jpg
The hole centres are 60mm apart.

Message me if you are interested!

CO_Hoya 04-13-20 07:10 AM

Bumping for OP Hagiadiz to see.


Originally Posted by MezzoLew (Post 21415240)
I have a head tube badge (NOS) for a Viking if you want to add it to your bike. I has a Viking as my first drop bar racing bike when I was 14 and loved it.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...204e3b5e9c.jpg

The hole centres are 60mm apart.

Message me if you are interested!


MezzoLew 04-15-20 04:26 AM

This is a viking headstock - see the fine detail lugs
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c412dfb025.png

MezzoLew 06-01-20 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by CO_Hoya (Post 21415436)
Bumping for OP Hagiadiz to see.

Sorry pal .. now moved on to another keen cycling with a viking!


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