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Old 12-03-19, 01:10 AM
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The taper.

There is one thing that will always make me smile, and that is the taper. To be more specific, when a bike has the chain on the big ring and the small cog and the distance between the chain at the center of the lower derailleur pulley and the top of the smallest cog is less than the diameter of the big ring, that, just makes a bike look good.

I do not own a bike where this occurs, I do like low gears, thus large cogs, thus rear derailleurs with long cages, thus, no aforementioned taper *sigh*. But, that does not prevent me from coveting bicycles with the taper.

53/11 with a short cage derailleur, man, that just looks good, and fast. There is no way that I'm the only person that feels this way, quite likely there is some other vernacular that describes this that I just don't know about...

And while a single speed, or fixie, or track bike, maximizes this taper, somehow that just doesn't count, the bike needs to have a rear derailleur for it to matter.
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Old 12-03-19, 07:02 AM
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I'm hip to this. I first noticed it in bike ads in the late 80s to early 90s.

These days, I run 48-50T and lament the loss of "taper".

BITD pic of my Ciocc with 53/12


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Old 12-03-19, 10:45 AM
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Like this? 53-11 Short 7800 Dura Ace.
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Nowadays, the taper is in the opposite direction with monster cassette cogs and a tiny chainring in front. Ugh.
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How's this?

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Race bikes with big-to-small taper to advertise speed.

(Vintage) touring bikes with small-to-big taper to advertise (load/climbing) capability. Always fun seeing that in the brochures.

Any more now, when taking a serious photo of my bike, I actually prefer to have no taper (with chain on the big ring), or very little (if the chain is short). I like horizontal lines and matching the top tube.
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The taper is for people who live in the flatlands, or places where all hills are downhills.

So, I'm guessing that this is not a good look for you...


gravel bike showing reverse taper
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Want taper? Ride a fix gear. Get a nice taper in any gear. You can climbing mountains in a 42-23 and still have plenty.
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Taper represents our memories of youth and strength, living in the big ring for most of the day.
New road bikes still have it.
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You want taper? I'll give you taper!


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And to think, I was expecting a heretical n-1 thread!
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Originally Posted by TXsailor View Post
Like this? 53-11 Short 7800 Dura Ace.
Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
How's this?


Yes!

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The taper is for people who live in the flatlands...
None of my bikes have the taper, and I know bikes with the taper wouldn't work well for the riding I like to do (climbing, lots of it, preferably steep), but, like a moth to the flame, I just like it, it looks good!

Originally Posted by davester View Post
So, I'm guessing that this is not a good look for you...


gravel bike showing reverse taper
My fat bike has even worse "reverse taper", maybe we can call that "wedge" from now on?

And sometimes when I get on my fat bike and I have to avert my gaze as the wedge is just so gauche, sure, it gets stuff done, but...

Originally Posted by clubman View Post
Taper represents our memories of youth and strength, living in the big ring for most of the day.
I just turned 46, so I can still make the bike complain ever so slightly when I'm out to hurt myself, but, there's nothing like being 25 years old...

Originally Posted by clubman View Post
New road bikes still have it.
Seems so many have bigger cogs in the back so they have longer cage derailleurs so, *sniff* no taper. I'm sure some do though.

Originally Posted by davester View Post
You want taper? I'll give you taper!


Sur la plaque!
No derailleur, and it's a motor pacing bike, which reminds me, I was going to make one of those, but mine will be a bit different, I still have some details to sort in my head before I upload it to reality.

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And to think, I was expecting a heretical n-1 thread!
Whoa whoa whoa, since joining here I've picked up 2 bikes, there will be no N-1 BS for me anytime soon!

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Old 12-03-19, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davester View Post
You want taper? I'll give you taper!


Sur la plaque!
I forgot to add, thats some sweet Drillium there!
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