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Old 12-07-19, 08:11 AM
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Riser bar with a slight rear sweep

My back and neck are not letting me ride on drops even out on the hoods is hard anymore. Looking to change my Pro-tour to a more upright position and want a bit of rise and about an 18 degree sweep back.
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Have you done the Technomic or riser stem yet?
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What is "sweep back"? Do you mean you want the bars behind the stem? Get a very short stem and rotate it 180 degrees to face the rear (requires the bars to be re-installed in the stem's new direction).

Have you tried a mountain bike and their flat bars? They offer a more erect riding position. I have one I converted to road use.

I also converted another mountain bike to an upright with sprung saddle, and North Roads bars that "sweep back". This is a fully erect riding position which is very comfortable.

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Might you consider riding/demoing a bike with Jones bars with the many different hand positions?
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Old 12-07-19, 07:43 PM
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V-O sells lots of upright bars: https://velo-orange.com/collections/handlebars

The Postino or the Curvy Bar might fit your needs.
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I’m a huge fan of backswept flat bars. I started with an On-One Mary Bar, then a Hsin Ling type bar, now Origin8 Transit bars. Love ‘em. I’ve only seen the transits in 31.8, but there are lots of versions of this type thing.

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Some of the comfort bike or hybrid riser bars seem to have the most generous bit of rearward sweep versus aftermarket bars, assuming you don't want one of the more heavily swept-back designs.
I actually raced XC for a time using the old "arc" bars, which gave my wrists the best working angle.
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These have some curve to them.
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I guess that by 18º you mean with reference to the bar as it comes out of the stem? There's no shortage of city bars with this shape. If you wanted something more heavy duty, there's nitto bullmoose bars.

Have you considered Albatross bars or similar bars? I don't really like having my hands stuck in one position. These have more space to move around, and can be comfortable even on fairly long dirt road rides. Good for climbing too. I don't really need an upright position, but these are a fun alternative for me because they make me chill out and enjoy the ride. Also available in extra strong heat treated aluminum.

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/...nt=28423418573


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Originally Posted by JacobLee View Post

Man, great setting!

And, um, nice bars.
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Here is my Pro-tour with some 42mm wide Randonneur bars really comfortable but with the Shimano 5700 brifters I feel very stretched out.
Cockpit view

top view


My Fuji with Ultegra flat bar shifter and brake levers. this had downhill printed on the bars under the grips, perfect, well almost, they are too straight and cause my wrists to twist.

cockpit view of my Hot Chili bars

Top view Hot chili bars




My MTB with flat bars also too straight but work for this bike for off the beaten path.

Flat bar on my MTB

top view of my MTB



My Gazelle Primeur grocery getter, probably what I am looking for, nice rise and a bit of sweep back.

Cockpot view of my cruiser

Probably what I am looking for
This allows my wrists to be straight and give me a comfortable position that I can ride for miles.
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Originally Posted by rseeker View Post
Man, great setting!

And, um, nice bars.
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I guess that by 18º you mean with reference to the bar as it comes out of the stem? There's no shortage of city bars with this shape. If you wanted something more heavy duty, there's nitto bullmoose bars.

Have you considered Albatross bars or similar bars? I actually dislike these a whole lot.

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Might you consider riding/demoing a bike with Jones bars with the many different hand positions?
I do not really need a bunch of hand positions, just looking for straight wrists and upright seating

Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
Have you done the Technomic or riser stem yet?
Yes, almost all my bikes have some sort of riser stem
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Originally Posted by JacobLee View Post
I’m a huge fan of backswept flat bars. I started with an On-One Mary Bar, then a Hsin Ling type bar, now Origin8 Transit bars. Love ‘em. I’ve only seen the transits in 31.8, but there are lots of versions of this type thing.

The second picture are very close to what I am looking for, maybe with a bit more rise.
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Originally Posted by bwilli88 View Post
I do not really need a bunch of hand positions, just looking for straight wrists and upright seating

Yes, almost all my bikes have some sort of riser stem
have you considered moving the controls inboard and applying a provisional tape job- test those out?
I understand on the wrist / arm angle.
actually the bars that work surprisingly well are the old Scott Mtb bar that loops forward and meets like a time trial bar.
the other thing I experimented with was taking a very shallow bend back bar and inverting it. Gives that X-29 experimental fighter look. Straight wrist
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I like my Soma Clarence bar on a single speed Mountain bike. The hand position is wide and forward so a short stem might be necessary.


I also liked the narrower Sparrow Bar on my country-fried Bridgestone CB-1. I replaced them with mustache bars that are not as comfortable in the primary position but give me a better areo position when I need it.

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These guys made my MotoB more than a treat to ride, assuming one wants a relaxed, look here, there and eveywhere ride. I do not know the make but they are yours if you can wait until April and agree to cover the cost to ship. I think that they still have the brake levers installed...


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We used to keep boxes of this style bar in the LBS during the 80s, to convert road bikes. I guess it's not quite as common now.

The SOMA Dream Riser bar is pretty close to your desired specs. 2" rise. It's crazy wide, but looks like there's enough room to chop to desired width.
https://www.somafab.com/archives/pro...iser-handlebar

Velo Orange Milan bar is 1" rise, and close. More than your desired sweep angles. https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-...lebar-22-2-dia

In the Nitto line up the B260AA is about the closest. HANDLE BAR NITTO
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Flat and riser bars are great for quick handling and best on mountain bikes or for shorter rides. But after trying both for a couple of years on my Univega hybrid I switched to Nitto albatross swept bars. Perfect. Classic look, comfortable and remarkably versatile with multiple hand positions without looking goofy like some trekking bars.

The tricky bit is swept bars -- albatross, North Roads and similar -- tend to need a longish top tube and/or longer stem to avoid knocking the knees on slow speed turns. Some folks will trim the ends of the bars to suit themselves after a test ride. The albatross bars flare outward more than some swept bars, and my Univega has a long top tube relative to the overall frame size and seat tube, so I haven't needed to trim the bar. And I switched from the original riser stem to a long horizontal road bike stem (around 120mm, I think), so it's a bit lower and looks better. I can adjust the quill stem easily to suit myself. Right now it's slightly below saddle height.

And expect to need a new saddle or to adjust your saddle's nose angle, etc. Going from drop bars to riser or swept bars will change your sitting position and weight distribution. I've had to try several saddles to find one that suits me for longer rides.
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Flat and riser bars are great for quick handling and best on mountain bikes or for shorter rides. But after trying both for a couple of years on my Univega hybrid I switched to Nitto albatross swept bars. Perfect. Classic look, comfortable and remarkably versatile with multiple hand positions without looking goofy like some trekking bars.
While I agree, Albatross work better for longer rides for me too, OP says he doesn't like Albatross / North Road type bars.
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While I agree, Albatross work better for longer rides for me too, OP says he doesn't like Albatross / North Road type bars.
I've also become a fan of the versatility afforded by albatross bars (when flipped resemble Nitto's moustache or albastache). Initially wasn't a fan but after a few rides my thankful neck changed my mind.

Unless I am mistaken, it seems the OP owns two Pro Tours. The geometry of the '83 features a longer TT and shorter HT than his earlier Pro Tour so maybe he'd been open to trying out multiple bar options.
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Originally Posted by bwilli88 View Post
Here is my Pro-tour with some 42mm wide Randonneur bars really comfortable but with the Shimano 5700 brifters I feel very stretched out.
Cockpit view

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I had a similar problem with my '93 Trek 5900 when I switched from downtube shifters to brifters. The brifter hoods were much longer than the original Shimano brake hood hooks. Between the very long stem (140mm, I think) and longer hoods it was really uncomfortable due to my old neck injuries.

But I liked the brifters so I switched to a shorter 90mm stem and Omega compact drops. The Omega drops have shorter reach across the tops but normal length in the drops. The combination has been much more comfortable without sacrificing much. I might try a 100mm stem now because I can just see the front wheel hub over the bar when I'm in the drops and tucked. The handling can be a bit twitchy on some rough pavement -- sharp dips with rough seams, ripples on fast curves, etc. With the longer original stem it felt more stable.

For quill stems some friends say the Soma Highway One compact drops solved that bike fit and comfort issue for them.
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A great web page to see a million bars and their sweep. I found it researching the Denham bars I got. Gives you an idea of a lot of options.

What Bars? The Bicycle Handlebar Database

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Talk about a black hole, i got lost for 20min comparing bars.
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Gotten to like these a lot. Noirette ya from Amazon A just right amount of sweep back and to rise. Cheap too!
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