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Old 12-20-19, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
True about clinchers usually going 100 psi to zero instantly and sometimes just losing all support and control from the wheel, instantly too, while most flats on a tub goes down more slowly.....with a "pop......hiss hiss hiss hiss hiss". As you slowly come to a more controllable stop.
Why I have no interest in tubless clincher road tires.
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Old 12-20-19, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by masi61 View Post
How widespread is the use of sealant in tubular tires? I have not tried it before. I have read here (in other tubular tire threads) that putting sealant in a tubular tire has several down sides. It might be OK if all I rode were the same set of tubular wheels all the time, it my tubular tire bikes are more of Sunday riders. I would be concerned about congealed sealant creating an imbalance. Also, as the latex tube naturally deflates, re-jflating with sticky latex sealant on the inside sounds like a recipe for prematurely ruining the tire.
Vittoria I recall was the first to tout a removable presta valve core to allow for sealant. The sealant was meh. it dried out quickly
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Old 12-20-19, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
I have a lot of experience with Vitorria's Rally tire.
Yes - when you bought 3, 2 would be for riding, the third might sometimes have a lump issue - but it was the spare. Mounting without glue for the purposes of stretching, inspecting, etc = usually sorted out a lumpy one. And at 100+psi on typical roads most lumps were minimal, often got better with time, often not. But for a damped, cotton casing, training tire for cheap - Rally wasn't a bad choice. But I've moved on.

i probably have a Rally on a spare front wheel.
Otherwise I'm currently running:
VeloFlex in 25/28mm = Roubaix, Arenburg, Vlaanderen (2)
Specialized Turbo 24mm - 3-4 years old, but a great tire for fast
Conti Sprinters (not Gators) 22mm = 2 bikes liking that firm/fast feel
Conti Giros 23mm - came on a wheelset and OK for that firm/fast feel
Schwalbe 30mm - semi-off road with tough pebbled rubber
Schwalbe Racing Ralph CX 32mm knobbies - moderate gravel bike duties

let me check for others........
A Conti Combo Sprinter rear, Competition front.
But the spares are all old crap.

With as many bikes as I ride (all in the sig line) and only about 3K miles per year total, the only durability comment is that the Spesh tires seem to have more tiny cuts in the tread than others, but no flats.


aha.... good thread.... just found a new in-th-box Rally, for a spare.

re-edit: I wanna buy the Vitorria Corsa G+ - $50 at MerlinCycles.
21mm rallys- meh.
23 mm better.
25 mm hard to find and not that cheap.
I bought a case of the 23mm tires for prices that meet and beat wholesale prices... I still have a good number stretching in storage on dead rims.
They are now "aged" Rallys, at least they won't pick up debris that fast.
Plenty of more pleasurable tires out there, but no tears when they flat. (but they don't....a benefit or a curse?)
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Old 12-21-19, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 6Speed View Post
I'm mainly interested in cost and durability. This will be going on a bike that I just tool around small town to grab lunch or run an errand. No long rides or racing on this one.
In this case, Vittoria Rallys are tan wall, look classic, and are one of the most affordable new tubular tires which are easily available.
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Old 12-21-19, 09:36 AM
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Vittoria Rally tires that refuse to flat = only a curse if you've mentally moved past the '$60 is too much for a tire' way of thinking.
A few years ago, my wife explained it to me, 'Those 2 skinny tires are as important to your health as the 4 on the car, so get good ones.' Since then - i always have.


My 'problem' is that i've focused on my tubular wheeled bikes, and need some high-end clinchers so as to ride those bikes more often.


Tires can Make a Ride.

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Old 12-21-19, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
25 mm hard to find and not that cheap.
A quick Google search turns up prices between $16 and $35 for the 25mm size. Given that someone commented in this thread that their (latest?) Rally purchase came with removable valve cores, maybe the lower end of the price spectrum is sellers dumping the non-removable variety. If so, since I'm a bottom feeder, it might make sense that I'm in possession of several with non-removable cores.
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Old 12-21-19, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
In this case, Vittoria Rallys are tan wall, look classic, and are one of the most affordable new tubular tires which are easily available.
True... but they ride like a garden hose full of frozen water.
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Old 12-21-19, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
True... but they ride like a garden hose full of frozen water.
Actually, with the thick cotton casing they (Vittoria Rally) ride very damped and like a heavier tubular. In a 25mm they feel more like my very durable Schwalbe 30mm tubulars.
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Old 12-21-19, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 6Speed View Post
Looking to replace some dry rotted tubulars on a bike I just bought. Wondering what tires folks like and ride these days? Preferably skinwall.

At the moment I have Gommitalia Espresso 21 mm on my Mondonico, and Vittoria Rallye 25 mm on my Masi GC. Masi hasn't been getting much use so I should probably re-glue the tires. I have some Jantex tape lying around and getting old - use it before it's toast! Unless I can find some better tires in my Tire Box ...
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Old 12-21-19, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
True... but they ride like a garden hose full of frozen water.
Such high standards. At $7.30 each landed I was not too picky.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Such high standards. At $7.30 each landed I was not too picky.
I guess not at that price. I will say one thing good about them they are nicer than the Conti Giros,.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
I guess not at that price. I will say one thing good about them they are nicer than the Conti Giros,.
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Old 12-21-19, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Such high standards. At $7.30 each landed I was not too picky.
Well, I hope you put them on some wheels with heavy rims and rusty hubs to get the whole experience.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Such high standards. At $7.30 each landed I was not too picky.

LOL. Cheap is good. I used to buy the cheapest sew ups I could find BITD. Typically paid $9-10 or so with my bike shop discount. Some were better than others. I was a poor teenager and rode a lot of miles. Even the cheapest sewups used to be way better than the best clincher, so it was fine. When I got on my $$$ Criterium Seta race wheels on the weekend, it made me appreciate them that much more.
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Cheap ones Rally's and Domestiques.
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You get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Well, I hope you put them on some wheels with heavy rims and rusty hubs to get the whole experience.
just dead rims I have collected over the decades. Back when I was working at a bike shop and built wheels often, they were offered.
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Originally Posted by masi61 View Post
How widespread is the use of sealant in tubular tires? I have not tried it before. I have read here (in other tubular tire threads) that putting sealant in a tubular tire has several down sides. It might be OK if all I rode were the same set of tubular wheels all the time, it my tubular tire bikes are more of Sunday riders. I would be concerned about congealed sealant creating an imbalance. Also, as the latex tube naturally deflates, re-jflating with sticky latex sealant on the inside sounds like a recipe for prematurely ruining the tire.
Only 3 years experience playing with sealant now so can't claim to perfect knowledge. So far the verdict is those feared events do not occur. The other concern is the sticky latex squirts out the hole in the tube, seals the tube, then the tube is stuck to casing and pulls apart when the tire flexes. Also does not occur or no one would do this.

I have used Orange Seal, Orange Seal Endurance and Panaracer Seal Smart. No claims for Stan's or any of the others. Most reassuring use has been on Schwalbe S-One with the light butyl tube. Inside a butyl tube the sealant might as well still be in the original bottle. Slashed a tire over two years old and all sealant still wet.

You should use your tires. Since they are now flat free (prayers) why not?
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Old 12-22-19, 08:38 PM
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Bontrager AW3 Hardcase Lite with 120 TPI. My favorite tire for years.
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Originally Posted by BengalCat View Post
Bontrager AW3 Hardcase Lite with 120 TPI. My favorite tire for years.
Trek spec says CLINCHER. Not tubular.

Did you mean the R4 320? $99.00 thru Trek.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Trek spec says CLINCHER. Not tubular.

Did you mean the R4 320? $99.00 thru Trek.
Sorry, I seriously fumbled the ball in paying attention to the forum title. The tire I listed is indeed a clincher. In mitigation, I am seriously mentally averse to tubular tires. (We all have our oddities I guess.) Again, sorry about the post.
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Timely thread as I'm shipping for some tubulars now.

According to https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/
Vittoria Corsa are pretty low rolling resistance. Although not many tubular models are tested here.
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Old 12-23-19, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TenGrainBread View Post
OP is asking about tubular tires, not clinchers.
Put me down for some 7 dollar tubies
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Old 12-23-19, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BengalCat View Post
In mitigation, I am seriously mentally averse to tubular tires..
You and about 95% of all cyclists.

Reformed glue sniffers? People who are attached to their tire levers? Heavy wheel lovers? Tubeless loonies? 40psi-ers? Unbelievers?
Mentally averse seems a mild condition. Maybe even solvable with help, but i'm not a reformer.
Besides, the very best clinchers are really nice, too.
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Roadways up here in Winterpeg are incredibly tough on tubulars due to all of the pavement cracks and potholes caused by the freeze/thaw cycles. I was riding heavy Vittorias (Rally) for a number of years but had a lot better success (fewer flats) with Hutchinson Reflex this year. They are also a heavy inexpensive tire but do have replaceable valves.
More expensive lighter tubulars simply aren't an option for everyday riding as they simply don't stand up.
My recent switch from glue to tape also has saved me around $1500 that I was considering investing on a set of clincher rims. I can now change a flat tubular in about 30 minutes rather than the multiple days with glue. I'm pretty certain the tape isn't going to perform like Tubasti does but it's good enough for casual rides and training.

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