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Old 01-30-20, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Funny, those gold/black chains seemed overly ostentatious to me. Screamed LOOK AT ME, louder than all gold.
As to Question One: gold with gold, for sure. Especially when a chain is as gold as the one in your photo, and when you're matching the gold details on the frame.

Here's a good representation of a gold/black Regina; sure looks more subtle in overall presentation than the pic in post one:



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Is a gold chain tooooo ostentatious?

Only for the first 10 or so hours of riding.

After that it will look like any other chain. Unless, of course, you use wax.
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Old 01-30-20, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by satbuilder View Post
Check with Greg Parker at Bicycle Classics. I was able to get Everest oro chains from him at decent prices, and he also has Regina oro freewheels in stock.
You might have to email him a couple times but it’s worth it.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
A Regina Oro chain and Oro freewheel were the gold standard (sorry) for years, so why not. I certainly very often had a ''gold' chain and freewheel. I think the idea was the brass plating made them run smoother. Maybe it did.
I think the plating on the freewheel at least was cad with hexavalent chromate, not brass
Known to have a similar smoothing effect, at least on tightening fasteners. Except it's toxic. And causes cancer.
Won't find that nowadays! These days it's either zinc chromate or Ti nitride or real gold, to get the gold look.

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Do you know which of the KMC gold chains are suitable for a 5 or 6 speed freewheel?
I don't think KMC make an 8-speed (generally recognized as compatible with 5 and 6 and 7 speeds) chain in gold. I'm pretty sure you could get away with an X9 even though it's for 9 speeds. I've used them on old freewheels with the 2mm wide cogs and 3.5mm between cogs, and they seem fine to me. But I bet the old Izumi mentioned above would probably work better. Those older chains with the larger side-plates seem to stay in a gear more positively, which contributes to the inimitable feel of those old drivetrains.

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Regina Oro chain & freewheel prices???
$250+ on the 'bay.
I just sold a used Regina Oro freewheel for $50ish last year. It sold way too fast. I probably should have asked more, but was unsure about the condition.
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Surely not too ostentatious when it is an original component, as on the Raleigh Record Sprint:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/543299...7688854991233/
The catalogue mentions the gold brakes, levers, cables, cranks and chain but not the gold anodised sleeve covering the visible part of the handlebars.
or shiny gold stickers. The overall impression is of a 1970's cigarette packet.

I recently acquired one that seems fully original, and ridden just enough that the chain looks like every other used chain.

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Old 01-31-20, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Funny, those gold/black chains seemed overly ostentatious to me. Screamed LOOK AT ME, louder than all gold.
I totally agree with that, Wildwood. Also for what its worth, that fully-gold chain looks good on the A-D. It matches the gold lettering.
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Old 01-31-20, 05:10 AM
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Paraphrasing the Beastie Boys: "[If] she's got a gold tooth, you know she's hard core."
I say go for it!
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I like the chain. I had a gold single speed chain on my converted 1990 Fuji Ace fixed gear. I thought that it looked smashing. Of course, I'm a dope...
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A subtle gold? Atom 77 Compact 6 speed.

A 77 Compact came to me for service. Basically it was NOS, as best I could tell, but had rust blotches at various places. When I opened it the bearings, races, pawls and springs were all ruined with major pitting, so the body was trashed.

However, the sprockets showed no wear whatsoever. So I went about soaking them in a rust removal solution, which basically removed all the original factory finish and left them with a flat gray finish. I then went to work on that finish with a bronze brush, and this is what occurred. For some reason, the two largest sprockets didn't pick up any of the bronze, despite initially looking the same as the smaller ones. I tried soaking the larger ones again for several days, but they continued to look more nickel than Oro. If anyone is interested in this freewheel (it is using a spare body that I had already serviced), send me a PM.
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Now that you have the chain, you have a perfectly good reason to get one of these.


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Needs a gold colored self-extracting crank bolt.

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Cannondale Black Lightning. I added the gold chain and bottle cage.
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That bike cries out for a gold chain and freewheel, though I think the Regina/Everest Oro chains are classier than the blingy chain that's on there. The extra blinginess distracts from the frame.

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gold chain pops with the black frame and gold decals........go for it no question
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Originally Posted by bargainguy View Post
Cannondale Black Lightning. I added the gold chain and bottle cage.
Very nicely done.

May I ask which chain you bought?
If a no-name cheapie from China, has it aged well? Not ever broken?
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Originally Posted by gilesa View Post
Surely not too ostentatious when it is an original component, as on the Raleigh Record Sprint:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/543299...7688854991233/

I recently acquired one that seems fully original, and ridden just enough that the chain looks like every other used chain.
Well gold chain + freewheel were spec'd on VN over the years.
And I know the cleaning will be increased, a lot. Will use wax per @wgscott's advice. Will be a fair weather rider.

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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Very nicely done.

May I ask which chain you bought?
If a no-name cheapie from China, has it aged well? Not ever broken?
Gold chain was a KMC X8PL. About thirty bucks at the time I bought it couple years ago.

Sold the bike, so no idea on how the chain performed. Seemed good quality, no issues at install.
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That Puch looks very stylish. I particularly like the drilled black chainrings.
But I would hate to try and keep a gold freewheel clean!

By comparison the Record Sprint looks rather crass, but fortunately I find that entertaining.
When better weather comes and I start to refurbish mine, I should discover if any chain gold remains.
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I think a gold freewheel is also in order. So, in my confusion of a parts bin I found something suitable. Pictured with a silver fw for the contrast.
edit: The bronze color will have to do.

Not the real McCoy (Regina), but then neither am I as a collector.



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Izumi gold/black chain on my recently completed Cherubim model "V":



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Originally Posted by scarlson View Post
I think the plating on the freewheel at least was cad with hexavalent chromate, not brass
Known to have a similar smoothing effect, at least on tightening fasteners. Except it's toxic. And causes cancer.
Won't find that nowadays! These days it's either zinc chromate or Ti nitride or real gold, to get the gold look.
Cad plating, really? That's interesting. Most people BITD seemed to think it was brass. I can't recall any literature supporting this offhand. The cogs did look brass colored. Would 'gold' cadmium plating have been a more common method at the time? If you're correct that may be why the gold freewheels were phased out by the mid 80s or so.
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Originally Posted by gilesa View Post
That Puch looks very stylish. I particularly like the drilled black chainrings.
i bought this crankset for the AD, but on initial inspection on the bike, it just wasn’t the cat’s meowww - the Stronglight is a much better component to boot.


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Nice TenGrainBread - have looked at those too. Good to see it on a bike, online pics of it rolled up give a distorted idea (for me) of what it would look like installed.


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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
Cad plating, really? That's interesting. Most people BITD seemed to think it was brass. I can't recall any literature supporting this offhand. The cogs did look brass colored. Would 'gold' cadmium plating have been a more common method at the time? If you're correct that may be why the gold freewheels were phased out by the mid 80s or so.
To my knowledge, yes, cad plating with chromate was very common at that time (on car parts, on screws and bolts, even on some tools), and I hardly ever hear about brass plating on steel. That and the way these old freewheels look screams "cad" to me. There's a luster and iridescence to cad with chromate that brass or bronze won't have, and this varies with the thickness of the coating. That and the forum threads I've read here indicate to me that it's probably cad with chromate.

Interestingly, you can still get the yellow color by using zinc plating followed by chromate conversion. But it's not as tough or corrosion-resistant as cad.

What I really wonder about is the Suntour "brown finish" Perfect freewheels. Some people have told me that as chromate conversion coatings get thicker, they turn a shade of olive. Is this Suntour brown coating a really thick cad chromate? If so, it's very high quality. But I kind of doubt it, because the brown freewheels seem like they're often the first to rust.
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Not ostentatious at all. I went with gold chain and gold pedal cages.

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