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Meet “Barney”, The 1898 Glenwood

Old 02-07-20, 05:39 PM
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Here's one a friend sent me today:

https://gearjunkie.com/25th-infantry-bicycle-corps

Maybe don't attempt all of that on Barney but assume the bike is reasonably capable (except where you have seen it is not).

Wood looks amazing.
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Awesome job @OldsCOOL!! That is a really COOL bike!! Love them wooden rims.

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Awesome job @OldsCOOL!! That is a really COOL bike!! Love them wooden rims.

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@aceves thanx man, I really appreciate that.
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Originally Posted by 63rickert View Post
Here's one a friend sent me today:

https://gearjunkie.com/25th-infantry-bicycle-corps

Maybe don't attempt all of that on Barney but assume the bike is reasonably capable (except where you have seen it is not).

Wood looks amazing.
What an awesome and enlightening story! Thank you for posting this. At least I know the bike will be tougher than me...it’s already twice my age!
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What an awesome and enlightening story! Thank you for posting this. At least I know the bike will be tougher than me...it’s already twice my age!
Yes! fantastic documentary thanks a million for posting this...
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Here is Barney having a 10deg photo session. Now, completed after adding the new leather wrapped wood grips. It has had a shakedown cruise last week and is fully functional, including the 1907 (add on upgrade of the day) Atherton coaster brake.


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^^^^^ Finger in the frame adds a hint of pre-digital authenticity....
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^^^^^ Finger in the frame adds a hint of pre-digital authenticity....
I can’t believe we take pictures with telephones! And don’t need to develop them!
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I can't get enough of looking at it - thanks for trudging out into the cold to snap the pictures for us.

There's something so contemporary about it too. If it wasn't for the bars, it could be mistaken for a stripped-down 1970's Columbia at a distance if one doesn't realize what they are looking at. (And by no means do I mean this as the insult to the Glenwood - the internal lugs are what led me to reference Columbia over similar Raleighs or Schwinns).

I'm also really impressed at that equally contemporary weight. It is as if 1898 just called in so they could laugh at Schwinn's electroforging of 30 years later and at the fixie-shaped boat anchors offered today.

By the way - how's the frame for stiffness?

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
There's something so contemporary about it too. If it wasn't for the bars, it could be mistaken for a stripped-down 1970's Columbia at a distance if one doesn't realize what they are looking at. (And by no means do I mean this as the insult to the Glenwood - the internal lugs are what led me to reference Columbia over similar Raleighs or Schwinns).
"Timeless"?
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
I can't get enough of looking at it - thanks for trudging out into the cold to snap the pictures for us.

There's something so contemporary about it too. If it wasn't for the bars, it could be mistaken for a stripped-down 1970's Columbia at a distance if one doesn't realize what they are looking at. (And by no means do I mean this as the insult to the Glenwood - the internal lugs are what led me to reference Columbia over similar Raleighs or Schwinns).

I'm also really impressed at that equally contemporary weight. It is as if 1898 just called in so they could laugh at Schwinn's electroforging of 30 years later and at the fixie-shaped boat anchors offered today.

By the way - how's the frame for stiffness?

-Kurt
I haven’t tested the frame for stiffness but it does behave nicely. The light weight of this caught me completely offguard. After reading on pathracers being made for velo tracks, having large chainrings, sub-25lb weight, rat traps, drop bars, track dropouts w/adjusters, drillium sprocket and simple but sturdy frames, it was later obvious to what this bike was designed for, racing. Just a measured estimate with this skip tooth, looks to be comparable to a 53/16 fixie ratio. That’s board track gearing and roadster compromise. This one has a bell on it (still works!) for riding like a “Scorcher”.

I laughed at your Schwinn comment.

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Love those grips, but I think I’d bring the bars up a touch. 🤔 That snowy hill looks perfect. 👍
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Old 02-14-20, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by stardognine View Post
Love those grips, but I think I’d bring the bars up a touch. 🤔 That snowy hill looks perfect. 👍
Tell this guy...he needs a bike fit.


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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
"Timeless"?
Timeless.

Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
I haven’t tested the frame for stiffness but it does behave nicely. The light weight of this caught me completely offguard. After reading on pathracers being made for velo tracks, having large chainrings, sub-25lb weight, rat traps, drop bars, track dropouts w/adjusters, drillium sprocket and simple but sturdy frames, it was later obvious to what this bike was designed for, racing. Just a measured estimate with this skip tooth, looks to be comparable to a 53/16 fixie ratio. That’s board track gearing and roadster compromise. This one has a bell on it (still works!) for riding like a “Scorcher”.

I laughed at your Scwinn comment.
I'm jealous - ever since I made my '51 Raleigh my daily, a part of me keeps gnawing on the idea of "older, lighter, faster." Sounds like you've found all three.

Look at it this way: I laugh at Schwinn electroforged bikes

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Tell this guy...he needs a bike fit.
Graeme Obree's long lost grandfather?

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post



Graeme Obree's long lost grandfather?

-Kurt
I might have guessed Evel Knievel’s grandfather, but there’s no cape or helmet. 😁 Great pics here. 👍
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I might have guessed Evel Knievel’s grandfather, but there’s no cape or helmet. 😁 Great pics here. 👍
Or sideburns.....
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Originally Posted by stardognine View Post
I might have guessed Evel Knievel’s grandfather, but there’s no cape or helmet. 😁 Great pics here. 👍
Duke Caboom then?

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post

Graeme Obree's long lost grandfather?

-Kurt
Favorable genetics!


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Tell this guy...he needs a bike fit.


The ORIGINAL racers...slammin' stems since the turn of the century
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Originally Posted by BFisher View Post
Interesting. Considering the one piece crank and the coaster brake, that seems rather light. I'd love to test ride something like that.
Seems light and is light. The crankset is trim in size, the Pirate brand rat traps are light by todays standards. Much of the weight reduction came with a cost in reduced durability. They were track bikes and from what is written, they were not trusted to last off road. Another racing trait is the high mounted BB. The ads for Glenwood had them featuring a “3 point” bearing system though I don’t know what that meant.
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Very interesting. It makes me wonder how competing makers were similar/different in design back then.

That shot in front of the white barn doors is fantastic.
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Very interesting. It makes me wonder how competing makers were similar/different in design back then.

That shot in front of the white barn doors is fantastic.
Hey thanx! It didn’t take long with the boom in the release of “safety bikes” for races to start popping up. Bike makers soon catered to the needs. Frames were reduced in weight, rat trap pedals, higher BB mounts, drop bars, geo that allowed a leaning out over the bar for aero, larger chain rings, sweeping fork and headtube angles. And that is what we now call the Path Racer.

Bike racing began when the 2nd bicycle was sold. Everybody was zipping around.

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Great idea on tires. I never put any on mine because the originals are to expensive. Now maybe I can ride
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Great idea on tires. I never put any on mine because the originals are to expensive. Now maybe I can ride
The Challenge 33’s tubulars a bit narrower than the designed 1.5” they came with but they work. Cool bike! What year and make is it?

I could not bear putting the effort in this project and letting it sit with bare rims. This summer, I’ll ride this historical relic downtown on the weekends. People need to see these bikes, they are an important part of American history.
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