Help me identify the Bike.
 

Hello, can somebody tell me, hat brand is the frame or same information abourt the bike? The are Nervex pro lugs with campagnolo ends on the frame and fork, 27 seat tube, english threads. Thanks!

PHOTOS : drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ljOtKiAUP4qt81HiSWKT52Fc_SRly9FQ?usp=sharing

Nice looking bike. Is there a serial number on the frame?

Great looking bike. I can't comment on the frame manufacturer, but commenting to bump the thread to the top and provide pic assist. :)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b7bb6c1c5d.jpg

I think it is 938 Bates ‘Volante’ Track Bicycle

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Thank you for posting! :)

Do not think it could be later than 1968.

"JS" appears to be fond of oil lubrication for track hubs.

Do you know the meaning of the letter A on the hub barrel transfers?

Curious that a road model headset was used in the assembly - perhaps what was available...

Nominally at least, we appear to have a bar with a 26.4mm centre fitted to a stem with a 26.0mm clamp.

Note absence of lockring for cog. Perhaps just put together for photo op...

...wondering if origin might be latin america...

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verily, we should all benefit by a visit from Detective Chief Inspector MauriceMoss

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Can't help with the identification, but it's a beautiful machine. Thanks for showing it here.

The saddle and rims, together with the fact that it's a track bike, would have me looking towards Germany for an ID, but I'll readily agree that's just circumstantial evidence.

Great photography, too. I looked at all the pictures.

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Bates? BATES?!?!?!


If she be a Bates then someone has horribly mangled those poor fork blades. :roflmao2:


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Hello, why do you think so that it is 938 Bates ‘Volante’ Track Bicycle? Thanks.

Yes, definitely good photo work. Some of those images would look nice, framed and on the wall!

a stunner and agree that high quality photos really do it justice. No idea of make or nationality but a saddle with "Berlin" stamped on a saddle rivet seems a very strong clue! And the subtle "points" on the stay ends seems to be a touch favored in places like Austria.I think the "J S" and cap "A" are transfers like you might find for hobby or even ceramic use, must have had some meaning for the (earlier) owner. 27 seatpost means that if Columbus tubing this is SP, as expected for track, or at any rate a heavier wall tube for seat tube.

that's Gitane team color but that does'nt mean much. we need to know the bottom bracket thread

OP says "English threads" which I'd assume covers the BB as well as HS (maybe hub, too). What would a German make have used for BB shell? No idea!