If you DON'T own a modern bicycle... Which would it be?
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I'd say Renovo, but they went under two years ago. Shame, too, because they were awesome.
That being said, probably something from Eddy, a Specialized Roubaix (gimme a break--I'm five weeks away from 64). Or, since I'm still in love with steel & a proper horizontal top tube, Tommassini. Any one would have to be Chorus or Record outfitted.
That being said, probably something from Eddy, a Specialized Roubaix (gimme a break--I'm five weeks away from 64). Or, since I'm still in love with steel & a proper horizontal top tube, Tommassini. Any one would have to be Chorus or Record outfitted.
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Howdy folks!
Maybe a fun thread idea, maybe not... I currently only own vintage bicycles, but have had a couple of new or newish ones in the past. I am bored and perusing some of the new technology and wondering what I would go for if I were in the market for something fresh. I haven't chosen yet but will come back with some idea!
So, my question is this... For those of you out there like me, who currently do not own a modern bicycle, which one would you choose?
The only caveat is that you have to choose something that actually looks modern! No classic steel frame designs, etc.
Cheers!
-Gregory
Maybe a fun thread idea, maybe not... I currently only own vintage bicycles, but have had a couple of new or newish ones in the past. I am bored and perusing some of the new technology and wondering what I would go for if I were in the market for something fresh. I haven't chosen yet but will come back with some idea!
So, my question is this... For those of you out there like me, who currently do not own a modern bicycle, which one would you choose?
The only caveat is that you have to choose something that actually looks modern! No classic steel frame designs, etc.
Cheers!
-Gregory



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that fork is massive up at the crown. Did they brake the first 6 forks and have to use this one last minute?
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I’d get all the stuff I’ve never had: anodized titanium gravel disk brakes carbon rims and wireless electronic shifting
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If money were no object...


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ahearn...7637350361296/
This is a polished stainless fillet brazed touring bike built over the course of a bit under 500 labor hours.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ahearn...7637350361296/
This is a polished stainless fillet brazed touring bike built over the course of a bit under 500 labor hours.
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Colnogo C 64 with rim brakes ..I do not care for disk brakes. But since I will not own a modern bike sorry the overall quality just does not appeal to me ..show me one that in 40 or more years will be ride able and then you can peak my interest ....Carbon fiber will degrade long before this happens. Titanium the cost for a bread loaf bike no rolling resistance is not exercise it is 1 uping the Jones. I love and cherish my Vintage rides because like me they have weathered time and life and still going strong.
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Didn't read through all the responses, but I've got an irrational love of the Niner RLT-9 Steel. If I were willing to invest that kind of money in a bike, and the newness mattered to me, it'd be in the stable with a nice GRX group and probably some G-one speeds or RH on there...
https://ninerbikes.com/products/rlt-9-steel

https://ninerbikes.com/products/rlt-9-steel

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That's a fork by Lauf though. I posted them earlier on in this thread.
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I was wondering why I can't decide whether I like them or not! Almost uncanny valley territory sometimes.
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To cleanse the palate: Cervelo R5 in 61cm guise. On my personal list of bikes/frames I'd like to snag for a great deal.



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Modern enough?
My new custom Cicli Barco XCR custom with brushed stainless steel, a Barco Viva stainless fork with a carbon steering tube, Campy Super Record 12 sp. and WR Compositi carbon parts. HED Belgium wheels and White Industries T11 hubs and Vittoria Corsa Control tires. If you look closely you will note the Campy direct mount brakes, lighter and far more beautiful than discs, but better working than regular rim brakes.
Gianluca Barco (info@ciclibarco.it)is quite fluent in English and very responsive and helpful in the design, fitting, options and production. They have a huge number of choices and options in both TIG and lugged stainless steel with stainless forks and lugs of all types. He works carefully with you on measurements. He also got me a good price on many of the carbon and Campy parts.
My custom frame cost 3,320 Euros ( $3,600) including shipping. But, it has a lot of options like name plate, Italian shield, nickel head badge, direct mount brakes, multi-color paint, the Viva fork, the carbon steering tube and Chris King headset. The base price for a XCr TIG welded frame with a curved stainless fork is 2,620 Euros ($2,900) including brushed or polished finish, one paint color, interior or exterior brake cables, and a number of other no-cost options. A stainless steel XCr lugged frame is 100 Euros more.
The bike weighs 18 lbs. 14 oz. with pedals for a size 58.5 frame. It rides very smoothly and feels alive. Also the production quality and paint is flawless. Cicli Barco won the "Best of Italy" and other awards last year at Bespoked, the British version of NAHBS. https://bespoked.cc/awards.html.
For an independent review of the Barco XCr frame look at this: https://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/66...rco-xcr-review
And, most importantly, Barco makes handmade steel frames for about 20 other Italian bike companies to put their own name on. The odds are extremely high that any brand name Italian steel frame is probably made by Barco, although not to the quality control levels of bikes with their own name on it. Of course, there is a huge mark up by the other bike company. The Cinelli XCr stainless frame is made by Barco but has none of the options and quality finish that mine has but it costs $4,800.
Just so you know, XCr refers to Columbus XCr stainless steel tubing. It is a relatively new product, only about 10 years old, that features very high-tech metallurgy and is triple butted. The tubes are almost paper thin but quite strong. It also happens to be the most expensive tube set in the world, currently over $800 just for the raw tubes.
Gianluca Barco (info@ciclibarco.it)is quite fluent in English and very responsive and helpful in the design, fitting, options and production. They have a huge number of choices and options in both TIG and lugged stainless steel with stainless forks and lugs of all types. He works carefully with you on measurements. He also got me a good price on many of the carbon and Campy parts.
My custom frame cost 3,320 Euros ( $3,600) including shipping. But, it has a lot of options like name plate, Italian shield, nickel head badge, direct mount brakes, multi-color paint, the Viva fork, the carbon steering tube and Chris King headset. The base price for a XCr TIG welded frame with a curved stainless fork is 2,620 Euros ($2,900) including brushed or polished finish, one paint color, interior or exterior brake cables, and a number of other no-cost options. A stainless steel XCr lugged frame is 100 Euros more.
The bike weighs 18 lbs. 14 oz. with pedals for a size 58.5 frame. It rides very smoothly and feels alive. Also the production quality and paint is flawless. Cicli Barco won the "Best of Italy" and other awards last year at Bespoked, the British version of NAHBS. https://bespoked.cc/awards.html.
For an independent review of the Barco XCr frame look at this: https://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/66...rco-xcr-review
And, most importantly, Barco makes handmade steel frames for about 20 other Italian bike companies to put their own name on. The odds are extremely high that any brand name Italian steel frame is probably made by Barco, although not to the quality control levels of bikes with their own name on it. Of course, there is a huge mark up by the other bike company. The Cinelli XCr stainless frame is made by Barco but has none of the options and quality finish that mine has but it costs $4,800.
Just so you know, XCr refers to Columbus XCr stainless steel tubing. It is a relatively new product, only about 10 years old, that features very high-tech metallurgy and is triple butted. The tubes are almost paper thin but quite strong. It also happens to be the most expensive tube set in the world, currently over $800 just for the raw tubes.

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Johnk3 I love it, thanks for sharing! The Cinelli XCr was posted earlier as the choice frame by iab I think?
And here am I feeling warm and fuzzy about the possibility of indulging on a custom Bob Jackson with a full Reynolds 631 frame made after the storm blows over and their shop re-opens... Ha!
-Gregory
And here am I feeling warm and fuzzy about the possibility of indulging on a custom Bob Jackson with a full Reynolds 631 frame made after the storm blows over and their shop re-opens... Ha!
-Gregory
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The Cinelli XCr was posted earlier as the choice frame by iab I think?

But I do indeed own an XCR. #2 . Weighs in at 7.0kg/15.24 pounds. But it can clear only 27mm tires. Fine for the roads around the greater Chicagoland area.
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...But I do indeed own an XCR. #2 . Weighs in at 7.0kg/15.24 pounds. But it can clear only 27mm tires. Fine for the roads around the greater Chicagoland area.
-Gregory
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Chapman's frames are among my favorite modern work. Brian has a very classic flair to his designs. However, if I were to go for a randonneur Meerglas, Royal H, and MAP would also all be top choices! All well out of my price range for the time being... Saving up to buy a house within the next couple of years!
What style of bike are you getting built?
-Gregory
What style of bike are you getting built?
-Gregory
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Canyon or Fezzari
I toyed with the idea of getting a Canyon Endurance or Fezzari Fore earlier this year. Ultimately I just bought another steel Trek frame to build up and ride.

Canyon

Fezzari

Canyon

Fezzari
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Beautiful. I need to put that on my short list!
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That is a good deal on the frame. Definitely need to keep this in mind for future projects.
[QUOTE=Johnk3;21423374]My new custom Cicli Barco XCR custom with brushed stainless steel, a Barco Viva stainless fork with a carbon steering tube, Campy Super Record 12 sp. and WR Compositi carbon parts. HED Belgium wheels and White Industries T11 hubs and Vittoria Corsa Control tires. If you look closely you will note the Campy direct mount brakes, lighter and far more beautiful than discs, but better working than regular rim brakes.
Gianluca Barco (info@ciclibarco.it)is quite fluent in English and very responsive and helpful in the design, fitting, options and production. They have a huge number of choices and options in both TIG and lugged stainless steel with stainless forks and lugs of all types. He works carefully with you on measurements. He also got me a good price on many of the carbon and Campy parts.
[QUOTE=Johnk3;21423374]My new custom Cicli Barco XCR custom with brushed stainless steel, a Barco Viva stainless fork with a carbon steering tube, Campy Super Record 12 sp. and WR Compositi carbon parts. HED Belgium wheels and White Industries T11 hubs and Vittoria Corsa Control tires. If you look closely you will note the Campy direct mount brakes, lighter and far more beautiful than discs, but better working than regular rim brakes.
Gianluca Barco (info@ciclibarco.it)is quite fluent in English and very responsive and helpful in the design, fitting, options and production. They have a huge number of choices and options in both TIG and lugged stainless steel with stainless forks and lugs of all types. He works carefully with you on measurements. He also got me a good price on many of the carbon and Campy parts.