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Old 07-06-05, 06:52 PM
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ID for a mid-80s peugeot?

i've searched the forums and consulted the oracle at sheldon brown's site, and still have a couple questions...
my girlfriend recently got a peugeot off ebay for a nice price, and we're trying to figure out the make and year (she's going to convert it to a fixed gear, but that's neither here nor there...for now). here's a description:

turquoise/green paint with the yellow/orange/red rainbow on top tube and seat tube. shimano derailleurs & brakes, nervar cranks, rigida rims (black), malliard pedals (marked L and R instead of G and D) and malliard hubs (appear to be heliocentric or whatever those weirdly dished wheels are called), bottom bracket shell has Y8C3 50075 stamped on it.

also, any peugeot afficianados know when/if peugeot switched from french-specific parts to the standard threadings, diameters, etc?

many thanks to anyone that can help us out... i know it's well worth the $50 she paid, and man, is it pretty, but knowing exactly what we have on our hands will be a big plus when we start to take the thing apart.
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"also, any peugeot afficianados know when/if peugeot switched from french-specific parts to the standard threadings, diameters, etc?"

Sometime in the eighties. By 1980, the bottom brackets on Peugeots were swiss threaded. I have a 1984 low-end bike that is English. Not sure of the exact dates. Still trying to figure it out.

Some catalogs, though they tend to the higher end:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/peugeotshow/

Any decals indicating frame tubing? These will help identify the level, if not the model, of bike.
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thanks, poguemahone, i was just trying to wrap my brain around the peugeot bb thread in the fixed/ss department... needless to say, that's something she'd like to avoid if at all possible.
looks like the tubing decals have been removed, unfortunately. from the small pix and the my poor command of the dutch language, her bike looks most like the 1988 catalog page. there is no chrome anywhere on the frame or fork, and there's no checkerboard anywhere (1986 and earlier have the faded checks on the downtube). so i guess it's safe to say it's late 80s... do you have any experience with these?
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man, i feel stupid... after having it upside down to check the stamping on the bb, i flipped it back over and noticed that it's a versailles. another hiding decal while upside down: mangalloy HLE. i was looking at the seat tube instead of the down tube. still no idea of the year, tho.
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The late 80's Pugs I've seen have been English. Take a look at the bottom bracket cups and see if you see any markings. 35x1= swiss (at that vintage). 1.37x24 TPI= English. If that helps, let me know; if your bike is English, I'll try and recall how to decipher the serial number and it may help me figure the switchover date.

HLE is a propritary Peugeot tubing, generally used on entry level models.

The french BBs are not as hard to deal with as most people think; you have a number of solutions, none exactly convienent, but all workable. They do require some explanation. Swiss can be a bit harder.
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woo-hoo! it's english! thanks a ton for all the info. i hope the little bit i could give you helps you on your way. let me know if you have any other questions about it if it'll be of any use...
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jhnmrk...Your girlfriends Peugeot is a "Tourmalet" PH10LE Its either a 1988 or '89 model. My cataloge isnt marked but I believe it to be an '88.

Frame n Fork: HLE tubing
Brakes: Dia-Compe
Rims: Rigida black <the key to it all
Deraills: Shimano SIS 12 speed

24.5 lbs
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Sorry about the blurriness...
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so it is! even the same color as in the catalog. thanks for the info... i guess tourmalet is a model and versailles is the series? something like that? thanks for the info.
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