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What sort of Sorcery is this??

Old 05-04-20, 06:42 AM
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What sort of Sorcery is this??

Yesterday I was looking at the Steel is Real!! FB page, and saw a beautifully photographed Ciocc track bike.
My question is, how does this bike stand on its own with no visible means of support?
Photo taken from Steel is Real, credit to Kobeyashie Oessh.


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Old 05-04-20, 06:44 AM
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Photoshop......
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Old 05-04-20, 06:46 AM
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Yep
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Old 05-04-20, 06:54 AM
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Some people hold it, let go, quickly move out of frame while the pic is snapped, then grab the bike before it tips over. Obviously a 2 person operation.
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Originally Posted by StarBiker View Post
Photoshop......
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+1

note that photo made on an overcast day

of the many trees visible in the image none are casting shadows

yet prominent shadows are shown beneath the cycle's wheels...

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Old 05-04-20, 07:48 AM
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You just have to do it on the right day.

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Old 05-04-20, 10:01 AM
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It’s doing a track stand. No magic necessary.
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Old 05-04-20, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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+1

note that photo made on an overcast day

of the many trees visible in the image none are casting shadows

yet prominent shadows are shown beneath the cycle's wheels...

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That's definitely totally natural to see... Small objects close to the ground will cast shadows even in dim lighting, while the shadows of larger objects further from the ground disappate. You can still see the dark areas at the base of the trees.
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Old 05-04-20, 10:51 AM
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So no one else sees the suspiciously straight line rising out from the back of the stem? Looks like a support to me. May not have even been photoshopped.
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Old 05-04-20, 10:55 AM
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I was sloppy, you can see the clone tool marks.
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Old 05-04-20, 11:15 AM
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I take back what I said about the support, that's a signpost or something.

Photoshop. The telltale slightly blurred area where the clone tool was used is visible under the BB if you zoom in.

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Old 05-04-20, 11:28 AM
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I am old school. No photoshop or tricks with the computor. I use a sheet of glass placed under the left pedal.

Can be seen in this picture (right lower corner) as a blurr.



Disappear when further out from the bike.


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Old 05-04-20, 11:41 AM
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That’s creative
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Meh.
Didn't even bother lining up the valve stems.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce View Post
Meh. Didn't even bother lining up the valve stems.
Or the crank. Or cropping the bottom. Or getting the subject in focus.
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
It’s doing a track stand. No magic necessary.
+1 for trackstand.
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Old 05-04-20, 01:39 PM
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When the wind is just right...
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Photoshop? Meh..

+2 on the track stand. Had the road been banked, the naysayers would’ve been silenced.
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Had the road been banked, the naysayers would’ve been silenced.
You mean like a velodrome? Where this bike should be?
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Back in my day, before photoshop, we ran fishing line up to a tree branch.
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I'm going with a bottom bracket gyro...
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Mehhh... easy.... just a bit of salt under the tires.....
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Tubular tape on underinflated tires.
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