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So I'm in a bit o a pickle. Peugeot or Bertoni?

Old 05-04-20, 05:11 PM
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So I'm in a bit o a pickle. Peugeot or Bertoni?

Hi Everyone!

Looking for suggestions. Which to build.....or build first.

A) 56cm 1986 Peugeot Trathalon Super Vitus 980. Needs some rust repair and caustic soda removal or seized seatpost.
Has Dura Ace 7400 groupset. Could be a donor bike and build as a single speed. Might not be worth restoring as parts are not original.

B) 58cm Mid 80s Bertoni Corsa Mondial. I'm a fan of pink bikes. Will receive all parts currently on Peugeot. Will need to buy Italian threaded cups for the cranks and a nice fluted seatpost.

Thanks for reading!
Bring on the comments and suggestions. 😀

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Any differences in standover height or top tube length?
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The Bertoni looks to be a solid notch above the Pug and while its no slouch and yes I am Pug fan the Beretoni would be first.

Also hope you have a quill SP for the Pug, they can be a pita on a good day.
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Any differences in standover height or top tube length?
Hi John!! A couple of CM's. I'm right in the middle of 56 or 58 with simple SP & quill adjustments.
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The Bertoni looks to be a solid notch above the Pug and while its no slouch and yes I am Pug fan the Beretoni would be first.

Also hope you have a quill SP for the Pug, they can be a pita on a good day.
Quill SPP, thankfully is not an issue. I have a perfect one with a Selle Rolls saddle. That pink on the Bertoni just screams 80's. As posted all over the web, the Bertoni doesn't carry the panache of other italian constructors but..... I'm no pro so bragging is not an issue to me.

I too am a fan of Pugs so either way it'll be built but prob as a SS with dropouts moded to horizontal. Nothing a lil fab work cant fix.
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Tough call but I'm a huge fan of the Super Vitus framed bikes so I would lean Pug - unless it was a little more challenge to get a good fit
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Bertoni! Bertoni! shouts the mob..
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Tough call but I'm a huge fan of the Super Vitus framed bikes so I would lean Pug - unless it was a little more challenge to get a good fit
Super Vitus is so amazingly light and easy appreciate.
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Bertoni! Bertoni! shouts the mob..
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I'm a Gemini....so my mob has one twin shouting Bertoni and the other twin shouting PUG!!!!
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Tough call but I'm a huge fan of the Super Vitus framed bikes so I would lean Pug - unless it was a little more challenge to get a good fit
I'm a pretty lean build so one day I'd like to try out such a frame on some hill climbs, really cranking out of the saddle
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I wouldn't know what to do with that Peugeot's rust and broken top tube guide.

I would know what to do with the Bertoni. Post here when you're done:

Gotta Bertoni?

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
I wouldn't know what to do with that Peugeot's rust and broken top tube guide.

I would know what to do with the Bertoni. Post here when you're done:

Gotta Bertoni?

Oh! That Pug frame is toast!! After is painted, it will serve as wall art for my garage. It is a pretty frame set. I have another near identical frame to build.

Thanks for pasting the Bertoni thread link. Updates will be posted. 😀
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Thanks for all the responses!! Pug will be single speed very vintage but far from original. Bertoni will be treated to a period correct build keeping original paint.

This will be fun!!
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I'm a pretty lean build so one day I'd like to try out such a frame on some hill climbs, really cranking out of the saddle
They climb great - granted I ride 52-54 cm frames so frame flex isn't much of a big deal with those. Finished 6th in back to back years in a local hill climb race.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
I wouldn't know what to do with that Peugeot's rust and broken top tube guide.

I would know what to do with the Bertoni. Post here when you're done:

Gotta Bertoni?

Gorgeous blue Bertoni you have!!!
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They climb great - granted I ride 52-54 cm frames so frame flex isn't much of a big deal with those. Finished 6th in back to back years in a local hill climb race.
Nice achievement!! I'm 6'1" 220lbs with short legs on a 56 cm vitus 980 so I think this will be a pretty flexy ride.

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