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Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 21460344)
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Another Terry Fly ti fan. I rode the Sella Italias before, all through and for years after my racng days. Loved them. In my late 30s by body started changing, Go the more friendly Turbo and right about the same time, broke my tailbone. That turned up tail did not work! Rode the full length grooved Specialized for a while then discovered the Fly. The old Sella Italia magic and it works again! On all but two of my bikes now. Plastic covered Specialized on my city bikes that get locked up in the rain regularly.
The ti is simply because I am light. Steel railed seats beat me up. I raced an Avocet III with its aluminum rails. Loved it (Sella Italia again) but left it on my racing bike when I sold it so it wouldn't break under me. So, thank you Terry, for having Sella Italia make their great seats with the modifications that allow us not so young 'uns to keep riding them. And thank you, Sella Italia for making such high quality and durabvle seats and for working with Terry. Georgene Terry - probably responsible for more real changes in the comfort of modern road bikes than any other one person. Huge changes for the fit of women's bikes (like throughout the industry changes, not just her brand) and real gains for a lot of us men also. Ben |
Only one. I have newer ones and other ones butt this is "the ONE" since 1973. Don't know when it with be RIP. https://live.staticflickr.com/3672/1...f97c18da_z.jpgP1000083, on Flickr |
On my road bike, an Ideale 90 Rebour.
P!N20 , specifically the "Special Competition Ideale TB 90 Rodée Main Selon Rebour" ;^) On my mountain bike, a B-17. |
Originally Posted by Dfrost
(Post 21468644)
The saddle rail clamps are behind the axis of the seat post. This one is pretty extreme in that regard, letting me use a saddle with shorter rails, typical of leather saddles such Brooks, Gilles Berthoud and this Rivet, in my preferred position for my long femurs.
I’ve had the 1979 bike shown for its entire 41-year life, and this seatpost has resulted in my most comfortable fit, feeling like I’m riding “in the bike”, not on it. Saddles with longer rails reduce the need for setback, but I’ve also learned that my posterior asymmetry requires leather saddles like this for rides longer than 30 miles. I had a Selle Anatomica, which is also leather and with quite long rails, on a shorter setback seatpost for the same fit, but other aspects about that brand’s shape didn’t agree with me. The need for setback is reduced for a given saddle position relative to the bottom bracket as seat tube angle is relaxed. https://photos.smugmug.com/Bicycles/...IMG_4641-L.jpg |
Selle Anatomica! Most comfortable saddle I've ever ridden on in 60 years. Early season butt breakin is almost non existent.
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I don't know how many brands, models of saddle I went through (Flite / Selle Italia, Terry, Brooks, WTB, fizik, Romin, etc.) and all resulted in numbness where I'd much rather not be numb after less time in the saddle than one would think.
About 50K km ago, I decided to try out the ISM Adamo Attack - and while not a panacea, it's by far the best. Narrow enough to feel pretty much like a normal saddle between the thighs, but with relief in the tender areas. Within a month of having one of those on one of my bikes, ALL of my bikes got one, because going back to a "normal" saddle felt like I was sitting on the top tube. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c414818713.png |
Originally Posted by notmyke
(Post 21469028)
I don't know how many brands, models of saddle I went through (Flite / Selle Italia, Terry, Brooks, WTB, fizik, Romin, etc.) and all resulted in numbness where I'd much rather not be numb after less time in the saddle than one would think.
About 50K km ago, I decided to try out the ISM Adamo Attack - and while not a panacea, it's by far the best. Narrow enough to feel pretty much like a normal saddle between the thighs, but with relief in the tender areas. Within a month of having one of those on one of my bikes, ALL of my bikes got one, because going back to a "normal" saddle felt like I was sitting on the top tube. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c414818713.png |
Favorit Saddle
From the 70's a used Brooks on my used Peugeot. Don't remember a thing about it now but I regret donating it to a non profit when I moved to West Palm Beach. Wouldn't ride in the roads here then or now. Still regret moving here but that's another story.
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Originally Posted by JustinOldPhart
(Post 21468780)
P!N20 , specifically the "Special Competition Ideale TB 90 Rodée Main Selon Rebour" ;^)
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Originally Posted by notmyke
(Post 21469028)
I don't know how many brands, models of saddle I went through (Flite / Selle Italia, Terry, Brooks, WTB, fizik, Romin, etc.) and all resulted in numbness where I'd much rather not be numb after less time in the saddle than one would think.
About 50K km ago, I decided to try out the ISM Adamo Attack - and while not a panacea, it's by far the best. Narrow enough to feel pretty much like a normal saddle between the thighs, but with relief in the tender areas. Within a month of having one of those on one of my bikes, ALL of my bikes got one, because going back to a "normal" saddle felt like I was sitting on the top tube. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c414818713.png |
I've ridden a number of saddles over the years and generally changed when there was a need. I have ridden the Brooks Pro and Brooks Team Pro; Ideale, Sella Italia Turbo and it's clones, Sella Italia Flite Titanium (I think I rode this one the longest and only changed to another when my body changed and I started to get rubbing and chaffing issues); Fizik Arione (a nice saddle but way too narrow for me); Specialized Toupe (this was the saddle that got me riding again after the Flite Titanium saddle I had started rubbing me raw); Specialized Phenom. The Phenom is my current saddle in a 143mm width and I am happy with it. I went with the Phenom because the Toupe saddle has gotten prohibitively expensive and I was about to get a take off from a bike shop at a good price and so far I like my Phenom and will stay with it until and unless something changes.
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Favorite saddle: B17, Cambium a close second, 3rd probably Brooks Pro. I have a Cambium C17 on a modernish Roubaix, and it took some getting used to, but now it pretty much "disappears" as I ride, which I like. I started on a B17 on my Legnano Roma, 56 years ago. Still have and love the bike, but the original Campy branded, narrow rail, B17 died in a rain storm, after surviving 50 years, to be replaced by a new B17. I got the Cambium for its better weather properties, though I don't expect to be riding 50 more years.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6f5bbb553b.jpg Replacement B17, rear, front a Brooks Pro from the '60s, both favorites of mine. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a733c44703.jpg New Cambium C17, loving it too. |
For new race bikes: Fizik Arione
For vintage race bikes: San Marco Regal For touring bikes: Brooks B-17 |
I have my fair load of saddles: one Vetta, two San Marco Rolls, two San Marco Concor, one Selle Italia Turbo, two Selle Italia Turbomatics (the 1 and 4) and then a couple of Selle Italia Flites (two with aluminium rails, two with titanium rails). Besides the Flite, which I really like and have on every one of my "lighter" bikes, I haven't given much time to the others to mold my buttocks enough so that I would start enjoying them. Strangely enough, the Vetta is the one I used the most and the one that I don't notice while riding. I'm going to keep that one, and eventually, I'll sell all of the others. Just waiting for the right moment.
Unless it becomes unbearable, I think you have to stick to one saddle and ride it until your body adapts. This takes more than a week sometimes. If the pain is overwhelming, then there's no point in holding on to it. Just abstain from judging based on your first ride. I toured with a Turbomatic 4 and it just wasn't working for me. Now I have a Brooks B17 champion on the mail coming my way, which will go on my touring bike. I'm hoping it will start breaking in before I hit the road this summer. |
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