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Old 05-20-20, 11:33 PM
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Should The Seller Open The Package?

I just saw this, it's clearly not "factory sealed" but the seller claims it is NOS. Should he open it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Vintage...4AAOSwobFetcSn



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In this case yes, unless they are very rare imperial/metric Patagonian Pattern Staples, only made on Tuesdays in Toulouse in 1966, so unable to be replicated to give the new owner the pleasure of opening that "Factory Sealed" package.
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Should the seller open the package..?

I got my masters degree in psychology by studying why people do the things that they do. I found out that people do things for two and only two fundamental reasons - they have to or they want to.

In this case the seller does not have to open the package. Nor does he, apparently, want to open the package. So, no, the seller should not open the package.
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it's clearly not "factory sealed"
why do you think this? I've bought and sold hundreds of nos items that were in thick mil plastic "bags" factory sealed with only a few staples.

Maybe these "should it be opened" threads shouldn't be.
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
why do you think this? I've bought and sold hundreds of nos items that were in thick mil plastic "bags" factory sealed with only a few staples.
Well, someone's pretty gullible, aren't they?
Wait while I gather up a bag of NOS ball bearings...
j/k
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No, the package should open the seller.

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Originally Posted by old's'cool View Post
Well, someone's pretty gullible, aren't they?
Wait while I gather up a bag of NOS ball bearings...
j/k
You are no doubt "cool," but you must not be that "old" if you don't remember plastic bags from the factory closed with staples.
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No, the package should open the seller.

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Well said!
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I don’t know if the seller should open the package. You should definitely not buy it. 50 years old, French, $80, No Go.
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...what is the sound of one hand opening ?
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....what is the sound of one hand opening ?
A scream at the other end, because the body is a sealed unit?

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The judge was actually ruling that Al Pacino's lapels were out of order.

(Or is that Dustin Hoffman?......)
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The judge was actually ruling that Al Pacino's lapels were out of order.

(Or is that Dustin Hoffman?......)
Al Pacino. And his lapels are most definitely not out of order, as anyone who's seen me wear a 40-year-old suit will attest.



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The seller has listed it as a Huret Allvit rear derailleur, which it appears to be but the insert in the package has a line drawing on one side and the model number on the other for the Huret 700 front derialleur.

Kudos to Trevtassie for recognizing the staples as the real treasure in the auction...

Huret leaflet - 1973 scan 1

Huret leaflet - 1973 scan 2

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after seeing the catalog page, the "1900" on the package refers to the Allvit...
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...the Allvit ought to be more highly regarded. They always provided reasonable, if not exceptional performance. The Dodge Dart slant six of rear derailleurs.
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Simple

the seller can do or not do what they want to help their sale

the potential buyer can ask but can't force and then decide to buy or not buy

no should involved
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...the Allvit ought to be more highly regarded. They always provided reasonable, if not exceptional performance. The Dodge Dart slant six of rear derailleurs.
How come they always shift like crap when they're installed on an electroforged Schwinn, and break shifter cables right and left? The return springs on these guys could open up a drawbridge.

And since I'm being nitpicky...the Slant Six starves of oil during hard cornering. LeMons racers have figured that one out the hard way.

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the suspense is killing me.

news flash: manufacturers often printed literature with several different models listed on them.
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How come they always shift like crap when they're installed on an electroforged Schwinn, and break shifter cables right and left? The return springs on these guys could open up a drawbridge.

And since I'm being nitpicky...the Slant Six starves of oil during hard cornering. LeMons racers have figured that one out the hard way.

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318 v8 had no problem with that though I am not sure what I could do with a 64 dodge 300 with 3 on the tree would match lemons.... but I tried hard
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