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Old 05-27-20, 11:43 AM
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1986 Schwinn High Sierra. 😎

I just scarfed this about a half an hour ago. It isnít ďmintyĒ, lol, but in very nice condition, with a few scrapes on the paint, which is called Ivory with Chocolate. At least it sounds good, hmmm? 😁😉

The only thing thatís even remotely disappointing, is the braze-ons for the rear rack arenít threaded, so Iíll need to source a couple nuts. 🤔🙄 Everything else is just vintage-y cool. 😎

Iím not familiar with that crank part number, obviously early-ish Shimano, but everything else is Suntour & Dia-Compe. Iíve never used those roller cam brakes before, and was pleasantly surprised at how well they stop ya. 👍

OK, enough chit chat, we need pics. Enjoy. 😎







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BTW, the main reason I even looked at this bike seriously, is those low-rider mounting holes, on the fork. Thatís a major game-changer, for touring, as some of you know. 👍
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BTW, the main reason I even looked at this bike seriously, is those low-rider mounting holes, on the fork. That’s a major game-changer, for touring, as some of you know.
Those lowrider bosses are nice but not essential. My Cimarron has 'em, and my Paramount has 'em, and I had 'em added to a Trek that I redid, but my last tour was on a bike that did not have them and the U-bolts held the lowriders just fine. I'd be more concerned about the limitations imposed by those brakes.

Nice find, though. Those are pretty bikes.
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Those lowrider bosses are nice but not essential. My Cimarron has 'em, and my Paramount has 'em, and I had 'em added to a Trek that I redid, but my last tour was on a bike that did not have them and the U-bolts held the lowriders just fine. I'd be more concerned about the limitations imposed by those brakes.

Nice find, though. Those are pretty bikes.
I agree, those low-rider bosses arenít ďessentialĒ, but theyíre the best way to put panniers up front, and down low, so everything rides along nicely. 🙂

I havenít looked up date codes on those cranks yet, but read a little online about the cranks. These pre-date the Deore group, and were the ďbudget-consciousĒ alternative to XT. They were only made for 2 or 3 years, so itís no wonder I never heard of them before. Or if I did, I forgot. 🤔😉

I swapped the aluminum riser bars, that didnít rise much, for my old chromeys, with quite a bit of rise. That was just what I needed, for a nice comfortable fit. The seat post is a different size from my old Ritchey, so I couldnít swap it, but itís not bad for now, just want a slightly longer one, down the road. 🙂

Those Continental Town & Country tires are 26Ē x 1.9Ē, so pretty cushy, and yes, I got the 26Ē x 1.5Ē Araya rims, that someone mentioned, in another High Sierra thread. 😉

BTW, hereís what I meant about the rear rack ďbraze-onĒ thingy. Iím on a mission now, to find the right nuts & bolts, those ones are just kinda hanging for now. 🙄


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Those lowrider bosses are nice but not essential. My Cimarron has 'em, and my Paramount has 'em, and I had 'em added to a Trek that I redid, but my last tour was on a bike that did not have them and the U-bolts held the lowriders just fine. I'd be more concerned about the limitations imposed by those brakes.

Nice find, though. Those are pretty bikes.
Always a little stronger and nicer on the paint to have the racks bolt on than clamp on.
What do you mean by "limitations imposed by those brakes"? The Roller Cams actually are a whole lot more rigid than cantilevers, in my experience, and modulate quite well. My last tour was on an '86 High Sierra and the brakes did a lot better with the loaded bike than previous tours on canti bikes.
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Always a little stronger and nicer on the paint to have the racks bolt on than clamp on.
What do you mean by "limitations imposed by those brakes"? The Roller Cams actually are a whole lot more rigid than cantilevers, in my experience, and modulate quite well. My last tour was on an '86 High Sierra and the brakes did a lot better with the loaded bike than previous tours on canti bikes.
That was my impression too, that these roller cams are probably better than v-brakes. Maybe his were out of adjustment? 🤔
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I havenít looked up date codes on those cranks yet, but read a little online about the cranks. These pre-date the Deore group, and were the ďbudget-consciousĒ alternative to XT. They were only made for 2 or 3 years, so itís no wonder I never heard of them before. Or if I did, I forgot. 🤔😉
They don't actually predate Deore- which goes back to like 81; and had those HUGE pedal holes and I think it looks like Hobbit inspired graphics... Until M730 comes around, the hierarchy is a little fluid. Generally, XT, Deore then Z series... I'm not sure what goes under that- but I also think Z series stuff could fit directly under XT prior to MT-60. It's nice stuff- the levers were on some really nice bikes, the Z206 is a total "all business" front derailleur that handles a triple but also specced on doubles.

I'd rather have a Sugino AT or a Shimano FC-6206... then I guess an M730...

I think my 87 High Sierra was specced with MT-60 Deore and Suntour XC Sport. My MT-60 cranks got hit by a car in 91.
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BTW- one of the coolest things about this bike is the 'lugged unicrown' fork- From what I read, they didn't entirely trust TIG welding to handle the forces that a unicrown fork join would generate- so someone came up with a little lug. It's kind of cool in its own vestigial way.
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BTW- one of the coolest things about this bike is the 'lugged unicrown' fork- From what I read, they didn't entirely trust TIG welding to handle the forces that a unicrown fork join would generate- so someone came up with a little lug. It's kind of cool in its own vestigial way.
Yeah, that has to be one of the coolest things about this bike. 😁 It reminded me of some of the Bianchi Grizzly forks, from the Ď80s.

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Hey, I forgot to post a better pic, of this crazy-looking cable guide/rack-mounting bracket. Obviously more vintage-ier than most. 😁😉 Those are genuine stainless steel nuts & bolts & washers. 😎
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Interesting, my '86 does not have that four-legged stamped piece brazed on. There's a hanger for the brake cable stop held by the seat post binder bolt, nestled between the seat lug ears. And then the usual thick cheerio braze-ons for a rack.

Also interesting that it has a nutted front wheel with those little lock tabs and the small holes in the fork dropouts. My '86 is quick-release, with the common Schwinn "lawyer tab" alternative system.
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Interesting, my '86 does not have that four-legged stamped piece brazed on. There's a hanger for the brake cable stop held by the seat post binder bolt, nestled between the seat lug ears. And then the usual thick cheerio braze-ons for a rack.

Also interesting that it has a nutted front wheel with those little lock tabs and the small holes in the fork dropouts. My '86 is quick-release, with the common Schwinn "lawyer tab" alternative system.
Interesting. Maybe one of us has a custom-made or customized frame? Or maybe they just improvised a lot, back then. 🤔

BTW, the rear wheel is nutted too, and sits way more forward than Iíd normally feel comfortable with. But Iíve refrained from messing with that for now, no telling what kind of trouble I might get myself into. 😁😉

Oh, one of my crank arms (NDS if I remember right) has a hairline crack, so Iíll definitely be swapping that out. 😲

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I have the exact same Ivory/Chocolate High Sierra, that I purchased new in 1986. Except mine has the SR Slingshot stem. I had to replace the rear derailleur after I broke mine, and a broken brake lever, but that and the seat are the only non-original parts. Oh, wait, I put Town and Country tires on this spring to make it my touring bike. I wish I could restore the original paint job, because it shows the many years I have used it. The roller cam brakes are pretty good for rim brakes, but it's hard to put up with them after riding my 2019 FS trail bike with disc brakes! Anyway, this was my first mt bike love and will also near and dear to my heart.




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Aha, they obviously did improvise, on the components, at least. 🙂 With that Mountech front derailleur, you probably also had a Mountech rear, which were known to have problems. My derailleurs are both Suntour XC. And you have a Sakae crankset, instead of the Shimano I got.

But we both got those cool Suntour Power Thumbies! 😁 They actually look kinda cheap, but they work great, once you get a feel for them. Especially for trimming. It took me most of the first day of riding, to figure out what that noise was (derailleurs rubbing the chain) and re-learn trimming. 😁😉

EDIT: BTW, Iíll give you $10 cash for that slingshot stem? 😉 Just kidding, obviously, but those are cool. 😎

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
BTW- one of the coolest things about this bike is the 'lugged unicrown' fork- From what I read, they didn't entirely trust TIG welding to handle the forces that a unicrown fork join would generate- so someone came up with a little lug. It's kind of cool in its own vestigial way.
I've got something like that on my Schwinn MTB ('88 KOM 10), and I was wondering about that! I think it might have been a Tange fork thing, because I've seen it on a few other bikes of that period.

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Im selling an 86 or 88 blue over chrome Schwinn High Sierra frame 21 inch with brakes for $100 Queens NY. I was going to strip the paint and it to my chrome collection and make this one the off road bike, but i don't have the time. Goof Off can included in sale! HMU - John




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Could you please delete this post? No reason to put your ad here.
This has no relevance to this thread in YOUR opinion? If this is really offending everyone and making people salty, I can take it down, but as a member I'd like everyone else to know that if I'm looking at a thread about a certain bike model that's not super common and someone wants to tell me they are selling one, Id be more inclined to thank them for the convenience of not having to look for it elsewhere rather than point the crooked finger. I'm not hard up for the hundo, if more than one of you complains, I'll just take it down. - John

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This has no relevance to this thread in YOUR opinion? If this is really offending everyone and making people salty, I can take it down, but as a member I'd like everyone else to know that if I'm looking at a thread about a certain bike model that's not super common and someone wants to tell me they are selling one, Id be more inclined to thank them for the convenience of not having to look for it elsewhere rather than point the crooked finger. I'm not hard up for the hundo, if more than one of you complains, I'll just take it down. - John
It's not really a matter of opinion - the forum rules are clear that sales are to take place in the "Classic and Vintage Sales" subforum.
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It's not really a matter of opinion - the forum rules are clear that sales are to take place in the "Classic and Vintage Sales" subforum.
I get it, just lame that it bothered anybody, but i understand its a slippery slope...
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I hit Pullins bike shop, here in Chico, and got an LX non-drive side crank arm, and also some decent-looking low-rider racks. 👍 I wasnít too crazy about buying the Axiom brand, as Iíve had mixed results on the quality of their panniers. Theyíre either very good, or very bad.
But the Blackburns there looked even worse, with way too many bits & pieces, for my liking. And I actually think these Axioms are a bit better, than the older Blackburn low-riders. Weíll see. 🤔

I just put them on quickly for now, so I donít have to carry them, lol, Iíll try to straighten them better, later. 😉

I did a first quicky cleaning of the frame, and Iím pretty happy with how much crud came off. A lot of what I though were scrapes & scratches, was just crud & paint from something else. 🙂



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This has no relevance to this thread in YOUR opinion? If this is really offending everyone and making people salty, I can take it down, but as a member I'd like everyone else to know that if I'm looking at a thread about a certain bike model that's not super common and someone wants to tell me they are selling one, Id be more inclined to thank them for the convenience of not having to look for it elsewhere rather than point the crooked finger. I'm not hard up for the hundo, if more than one of you complains, I'll just take it down. - John
Thanks for deleting it. 👍 As another member said, there are rules we need to follow here, and I didnít want this thread shut down.

FYI, if you just say ďI happen to have this other bike listed in the For Sale sub-forumĒ, that seems to be OK. Iím pretty sure Iíve seen ads mentioned in threads before. And yes, it ďcouldĒ be pretty useful to someone else, so Iím not against that idea. 😉
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I have the exact same Ivory/Chocolate High Sierra, that I purchased new in 1986. Except mine has the SR Slingshot stem. I had to replace the rear derailleur after I broke mine, and a broken brake lever, but that and the seat are the only non-original parts. Oh, wait, I put Town and Country tires on this spring to make it my touring bike. I wish I could restore the original paint job, because it shows the many years I have used it. The roller cam brakes are pretty good for rim brakes, but it's hard to put up with them after riding my 2019 FS trail bike with disc brakes! Anyway, this was my first mt bike love and will also near and dear to my heart.




Put on a cheapie rear derailleur just to ride it.
You must be my good luck charm, lol. 😎 Today, I found another High Sierra, with the same paint as oursí, in a bike recycling place. Itís headset was dissected, and the paint was pretty scratched, but I bought it for $25 because it had that Slingshot stem, the Sakae FX cranks with round chainrings, in 48-38-28, and another full set of Cunningham marked roller cams, plus the Suntour XC levers. Oh, almost forgot, Suntour Mountech derailleurs, but not the super heavy rear, must be an early version. 🤔😁 No wheels or seatpost this time, but Iím cool with that. 😁😉 Pics forthcoming, once I find a place to charge my batteries around here. 🙄🤔
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Hey wait, I did grab a pic. And I gave up $5 for a Blackburn rack. 😁

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