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Old 07-08-05, 09:28 PM
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can you help me identify this colnago?

I bought this Colnago second-hand a couple months ago but don't really what year it was made, what model it is, etc. It has all the clubs cutouts and stamps in all the usual places and ttt handlebars. all the deraileurs, cranks, chainrings, etc. were taken off it by the previous owner (I think) and replaced with Suntour parts, which suits me fine. If anyone needs/wants more details, just let me know. below is a picture. it's kind of a frankenbike right now, but I'm putting the stuff on it that I want on it. any help is appreciated.
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more pictures, please
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from the pic you posted, with no closeups, itz hard to tell exactly.
But it looks from the era, around 78-82, when Colnago proliferated a bunch of models and number of frames.
As for model, I wouldn't know. But I do remember them putting out frames/bikes built with entry components around the Columbus Aelle tube set. DO I see racks boses on the fork and dropouts, then its likely an Aelle frame. Was likely a couple of steps below the mainstay Colnago 'Super' frame model (SL to 56cm and SP for 58 & up)
They had minimal braze-ons and the chainstay 'chrome' was a heavy weight 'chrome' decal as opposed to actual chromed stay with paint over it (some were chromed).
Built to ride the 'Italiophile' bike craze wave of the late 70's.
Problem was Colnago 'awarded' distributorships to anyone who would buy a good bunch of bikes, and they all gave their built up bikes a slightly different twist on paint, parts and prices.
It wuz shameful.
Upside, after some fiddlin with the parts, the bikes still rode quite nicely.
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Probably early '80s Super. Here's my daughter's '85 Colnago Victory. Same frame, later fork...
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thanks! I appreciate the help.

It looks like my bike wouldn't be the victory, though it is very close. it's lacking the seat tube and top tube details, and shows no sign of ever having them. but I am going ot start researching both models to see what I can find.

more pictures are on their way, I'm just super busy these days and haven't had a chance to take any.

again, I appreciate everyone's help. if anyone wants to add anything, please do!
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Probably early '80s Super. Here's my daughter's '85 Colnago Victory. Same frame, later fork...
wow... invisible tyres!

that is a pretty bike...
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DO I see racks boses on the fork and dropouts, then its likely an Aelle frame. Was likely a couple of steps below the mainstay Colnago 'Super' frame model (SL to 56cm and SP for 58 & up)
I just noticed those... OK; probably not a Super. Let's see some detail pics of the seat cluster & BB shell.
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here's some more pictures. I have the stamping on top of the fork, a cutout on the underside of the bike and some other parts stamped with colnago or the clover. if these don't help, direct me to where I should be looking. thanks!


and I promise, I'm not flipping anybody off...
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hmmm... I wonder if in fact it isn't a Super, just one with 1010 drop-outs... That would be odd. I'm sure some Colnago nut will chime in soon.
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colnago nut. If I could just get around to that frame hanging in the corner, I might turn into a colnago nut. Sounds like something you find on an exotic south pacific island, tho. The extra points on the sides of the head lugs - I have only seen those on Mexicos and Supers...

Nah, that's a drink - a Pina Colnago!
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I've seen a couple terms here I'm not familiar with. can someone explain "rack boses" and "1010 dropouts?"
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campagnolo 1010 dropouts are the four places on the frame that the wheels slide into. 1010 implies that the dropout is equipped with eyelets that you can attach a rack or fenders to. Rack bosses are the same thing as eyelets. Full tilt boogie racing bikes don't have eyelets (bosses), usually. and I have several sentences that end with a preposition, here in.
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gotcha.

wel it does have campy dropouts on the rear. and it definitely has eyelets. but it is also definitely fast.

also, the serial number, which I found on the rear droputs, appears to be 80, if that means anything to anyone.
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Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy
I just noticed those... OK; probably not a Super. Let's see some detail pics of the seat cluster & BB shell.
Yeah butt...
after lookin at the closeups, it looks the spittin image of my 'super' - 58cm (which is an 80-ish...). Same BB, Seat cluster, Fork Crown, lugwork, Same Candy Apple Red ****e paintjob, yadda yadda yadda - all except mine has a chrome fork, diff. chainstay bridge, has shifter bosses and no rack 'eyelets'/bosses and the seattube has/had the white panel logo decal. But even the angles, chainstay length, rake, seem 'super' onthis one. Course I think all Colnagos from that time all used the same geometry (size adjusted) on every frameset, regardless of tubing.

'Q' to owner - can you see chrome anywhere 'under' the paint on the fork blades (under any worn off areas)?

with these closeups I'd call it a 'Super' with 'options', and deem it "handgrenade close".
back then they were pumpin em out and couldn't keep up with the 'demand'. likely they ran out of stock parts and just subbed what they had available, like 1010 dropouts...
they were such HO's...
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I don't remember seeing any chrome underneath the paint on the forks. I have seen pictures of Colnagos that look exactly like mine with no chrome on the fork. The pictures, all from the Colnago Web site, didn't have enough detail to see the droputs though. From what I can tell, the chrome forks were started in the early 1980s?

I'll have to take a closer look when I get home tonight.
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I checked. definitely no sign of chrome under the paint on the forks.
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