Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

1973 International

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

1973 International

Old 06-10-20, 08:01 PM
  #1  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
1973 International

I just got this home and started with a basic clean up. The date code on the rear derailleur says 73, so Im guessing that is a good place to start with dating this one. Overall it seems to be in very good shape; no dents, just some of the usual scratches youd expect to find.
Re-cabling and a bit of rebuilding of bearings are on the near term agenda Its a great fit and a short spin showed that it rides smoothly.


Sorry about the dark photos; its getting to be evening time


orcas island is offline  
Likes For orcas island:
Old 06-10-20, 08:09 PM
  #2  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 9,702
Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2200 Post(s)
Liked 392 Times in 335 Posts
-----

terrific find

the copper can sure be beautiful in bright sun

pedals and saddle upgrades over OEM

wonder why skewers are Nuovo Tipo

original stem would have been GB hex head

did it come with a shop transfer?

hope all the insularians faring well during the lockdown...

-----

Last edited by juvela; 06-10-20 at 08:32 PM. Reason: addition
juvela is offline  
Old 06-10-20, 08:44 PM
  #3  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
There isnt a shop sticker on the frame. The rear wheel seems to be original, the front wheel has an Avocet high flange hub that fooled me at first glance. It looks quite like the Campy rear hub
orcas island is offline  
Old 06-10-20, 10:11 PM
  #4  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 9,702
Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2200 Post(s)
Liked 392 Times in 335 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
There isnt a shop sticker on the frame. The rear wheel seems to be original, the front wheel has an Avocet high flange hub that fooled me at first glance. It looks quite like the Campy rear hub
-----

thanks very much for the response

the front hub has a very slight bluish cast in the photo which i attributed to the light

do not think rear wheel could be original as do not think International offered with factory wired-ons at this time

if you get a 73 (or 72) date from the locknuts of the rear wheel it would tell you that original wheels may have been cut up to build the wired-ons. front likely replaced subsequent to change to wired-ons due to theft or misadventure...

appears that when the conversion was carried out they stayed with the 700 size if one goes by the position of the brake pad holders in the adjustment slots

seems slightly odd to our modern eyes that schrader valve tubes were fitted to 700 wired-on wheels

thanks again

-----
juvela is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 08:04 AM
  #5  
ascherer 
Senior Member
 
ascherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,656

Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 483 Post(s)
Liked 587 Times in 278 Posts
Great specimen. Serial number on the bottom bracket?
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1972 Raleigh Super Course
ascherer is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 09:36 AM
  #6  
Pars 
Senior Member
 
Pars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 2,453

Bikes: '73 Raleigh RRA, 1986 Trek 500 commuter

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts
The copper color wasn't offered until 1974. This would have originally had Campy Record HF hubs with sew-ups, so both wheels have definitely been changed. Also, the Brooks Team Pro (large copper rivets) was standard on the Professionals but the International would have had a standard small rivet Pro. Nice bike, and appears to be in quite good shape!
Pars is offline  
Likes For Pars:
Old 06-11-20, 09:39 AM
  #7  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
The serial number on the BB reads : WA52699. There are several spaces between the 5 and the 2 that may have had stamping, but they are too faint to make out.

Last edited by orcas island; 06-11-20 at 11:20 AM.
orcas island is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 10:16 AM
  #8  
SJX426 
Senior Member
 
SJX426's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 7,122

Bikes: '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '90 De Rosa Professional, '91 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 742 Post(s)
Liked 300 Times in 197 Posts
orcas island Like the color and the fork crown! Reminds me of the Trek 760 crown of 1984.
P1020996, on Flickr
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
SJX426 is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 10:33 AM
  #9  
ascherer 
Senior Member
 
ascherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,656

Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 483 Post(s)
Liked 587 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
The serial number on the BB reads : WA52699. There are several spaces between the 5 and the 2 that may have had stamping, but the are too faint to make out.
I believe that correlates to early 1975.
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1972 Raleigh Super Course
ascherer is offline  
Likes For ascherer:
Old 06-11-20, 12:53 PM
  #10  
jackbombay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 834
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Liked 354 Times in 215 Posts
It looks that good with just a basic clean up?!?! Beautiful bike!!!
jackbombay is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 01:16 PM
  #11  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
I actually havent started on it yet. These are the before pictures
orcas island is offline  
Likes For orcas island:
Old 06-11-20, 01:22 PM
  #12  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 39,124

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 475 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6477 Post(s)
Liked 1,019 Times in 674 Posts
It looks barely ridden.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 01:42 PM
  #13  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
It has a few more miles on it than show from those photos. Does anyone know if of a good color match paint or nail polish for touch ups to this particular color?
orcas island is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 02:51 PM
  #14  
Pcampeau
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 331

Bikes: 1968 Raleigh Super Course. 1972 Raleigh Professional, 1975 Raleigh International, 1978 Raleigh Professional, 1985 Raleigh Prestige, 1972 Schwinn Paramount, 1980 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8, 1978 Schwinn Varsity, 1976 Peugeot PX10, 1972 Motobecane Le Champ

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 96 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 52 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
It has a few more miles on it than show from those photos. Does anyone know if of a good color match paint or nail polish for touch ups to this particular color?
I sure hope someone can answer that, Ive got a 75 International myself with just a few blemishes that Id love to touch up.
Pcampeau is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 03:02 PM
  #15  
SurferRosa
Seor Member
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 2,953

Bikes: Old school lightweights

Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1215 Post(s)
Liked 944 Times in 588 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
It’s a great fit and a short spin showed that it rides smoothly.
Beautiful bike. Interesting the small ring is a 43t. Will that gearing work for you on Orcas?
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 03:06 PM
  #16  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
Im actually in the Bay Area, but I might look into a compact crank for this bike
orcas island is offline  
Likes For orcas island:
Old 06-11-20, 04:18 PM
  #17  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 9,702
Mentioned: 267 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2200 Post(s)
Liked 392 Times in 335 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
It has a few more miles on it than show from those photos. Does anyone know if of a good color match paint or nail polish for touch ups to this particular color?
-----

Raleigh International Copper Paint Code

1974 Raleigh International restoration


-----
juvela is offline  
Likes For juvela:
Old 06-11-20, 04:42 PM
  #18  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
Juvela- thank you for those links!
orcas island is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 04:51 PM
  #19  
ascherer 
Senior Member
 
ascherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,656

Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 483 Post(s)
Liked 587 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
Im actually in the Bay Area, but I might look into a compact crank for this bike
PlanetX sells a ramped 48-34 crankset that shifts beautifully and looks the part. I have one.



.
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1972 Raleigh Super Course
ascherer is offline  
Old 06-11-20, 07:21 PM
  #20  
USAZorro
Seor Member
 
USAZorro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hardy, VA
Posts: 16,751

Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 934 Post(s)
Liked 221 Times in 159 Posts
Originally Posted by ascherer View Post
I believe that correlates to early 1975.
It does. The one that sloar was nice enough to sell me starts WS4. Built in calendar year '74, but evidently model year '75.
__________________
In search of what to search for.
USAZorro is offline  
Old 06-12-20, 01:02 PM
  #21  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
I have a Velo Orange compact crank that looks much like that one. If I have time this weekend I will move it over to the International
orcas island is offline  
Old 06-12-20, 01:23 PM
  #22  
davester
Senior Member
 
davester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Berkeley CA
Posts: 1,792

Bikes: 1981 Ron Cooper, 1974 Cinelli Super Corsa, 2000 Gary Fisher Sugar 1, 1986 Miyata 710, 1983 Nishiki Cresta, 1982 Raleigh "International"

Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 542 Post(s)
Liked 168 Times in 99 Posts
Great find! I love those old Internationals despite the somewhat uneven levels of workmanship to be found on some examples. The odd thing about them is that they have touring geometry (I toured on mine for years in both the US and Europe) but are equipped with racing components.
davester is offline  
Old 06-12-20, 01:37 PM
  #23  
ascherer 
Senior Member
 
ascherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,656

Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1

Mentioned: 63 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 483 Post(s)
Liked 587 Times in 278 Posts
Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
I have a Velo Orange compact crank that looks much like that one. If I have time this weekend I will move it over to the International
I think they're both made by the same mfr.
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10E, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1972 Raleigh Super Course
ascherer is offline  
Old 06-12-20, 08:20 PM
  #24  
qcpmsame 
Semper Fi
 
qcpmsame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Barrineau Park, Florida
Posts: 12,749

Bikes: 1980 Medici Pro Strada, 1984 Tommasini Prestige, 2012 Cannondale CAAD 10 Ultegra

Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1115 Post(s)
Liked 157 Times in 127 Posts
Nice score, I still regret selling my '74 International. Great riding bicycle, my personal favorite from the 70's, just never found one I could afford these last few years.

Bill
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977

I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13


qcpmsame is offline  
Old 06-12-20, 09:21 PM
  #25  
orcas island 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 60 Posts
Were these bikes originally equipped with 27 wheels or 700c?
orcas island is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.