Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Help! Narrow axle- no QR fits!

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Help! Narrow axle- no QR fits!

Old 06-23-20, 08:16 PM
  #1  
Standalone 
The Drive Side is Within
Thread Starter
 
Standalone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Haven, CT, USA
Posts: 3,398

Bikes: Road, Cargo, Tandem, Etc.

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 120 Post(s)
Liked 40 Times in 27 Posts
Help! Narrow axle aperture - no QR fits!

Help! Where can I source a basic 126mm skewer that is slightly thinner than usual? Maybe threaded along the entire length?

I have a set of wheels with an oddly narrow axle. The skewers will insert only as far as the threads.

They’re unused (now I know why!) and soon as new so I don’t want to replace the axle and re adjust everything.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Standalone is offline  
Old 06-23-20, 08:24 PM
  #2  
unterhausen
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 22,761
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 2,318 Times in 1,639 Posts
any branding on the hub?
unterhausen is offline  
Likes For unterhausen:
Old 06-24-20, 05:16 AM
  #3  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2,047
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 763 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 807 Times in 495 Posts
Originally Posted by Standalone View Post
Help! Where can I source a basic 126mm skewer that is slightly thinner than usual? Maybe threaded along the entire length?

I have a set of wheels with an oddly narrow axle. The skewers will insert only as far as the threads.

They’re unused (now I know why!) and soon as new so I don’t want to replace the axle and re adjust everything.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?
You're probably better off drilling/reaming the axle. Standard is 5mm, a 13/64 drill is 5.15-something, go from both ends and make sure you cross the middle.

Skewers are narrow enough as it is, so my advice is no matter what don't try machining one down.
oneclick is offline  
Likes For oneclick:
Old 06-24-20, 05:55 AM
  #4  
Narhay
Senior Member
 
Narhay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,716
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 952 Post(s)
Liked 534 Times in 300 Posts
Are your skewers or the axle bent?
Narhay is offline  
Likes For Narhay:
Old 06-24-20, 07:52 AM
  #5  
madpogue 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Madison, WI USA
Posts: 6,095
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2057 Post(s)
Liked 1,163 Times in 850 Posts
^^^^^^ +1, check for bent axle. See what happens when you try to insert the skewer into the other end of the axle.
madpogue is offline  
Likes For madpogue:
Old 06-24-20, 08:07 AM
  #6  
mech986 
Senior Member
 
mech986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: La Habra, California
Posts: 761

Bikes: Italvega Super Speciales and Superlights

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 333 Post(s)
Liked 195 Times in 125 Posts
Can you see all the way through the axle? Can you put a small rod through it? Might it have debris inside? If the axle is bent, it is already stressed and may break. Something not right here. But may be best to replace the axle with known good axle. An all threaded skewer shaft may be a bit weaker overall.
mech986 is offline  
Likes For mech986:
Old 06-24-20, 11:40 AM
  #7  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2,047
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 763 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 807 Times in 495 Posts
Originally Posted by mech986 View Post
Can you see all the way through the axle? Can you put a small rod through it? Might it have debris inside? If the axle is bent, it is already stressed and may break. Something not right here. But may be best to replace the axle with known good axle. An all threaded skewer shaft may be a bit weaker overall.
Every thread notch is a stress-riser.

I have never seen a skewer that was threaded more than just enough for the nut - and if I had one, I'd swap it out for one that wasn't.

A broken skewer usually results in other broken things.
oneclick is offline  
Likes For oneclick:
Old 06-24-20, 11:43 AM
  #8  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2,047
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 763 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 807 Times in 495 Posts
Originally Posted by Narhay View Post
Are your skewers or the axle bent?
If they're bent, they'll likely be bent at one end - he said the skewer goes in as far as the threads. He should try putting the skewer in from the other side; if it the axle is bent, the skewer will still stop, but farther in. He should be able to eyeball the skewer for straightness.
oneclick is offline  
Likes For oneclick:
Old 06-24-20, 12:03 PM
  #9  
Narhay
Senior Member
 
Narhay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,716
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 952 Post(s)
Liked 534 Times in 300 Posts
Can you try a different skewer or roll yours on a flat surface to see if it is warped?
Narhay is offline  
Likes For Narhay:
Old 06-24-20, 12:12 PM
  #10  
SurferRosa
Señor Member
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,092

Bikes: Old school lightweights

Mentioned: 75 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2555 Post(s)
Liked 3,525 Times in 1,875 Posts
Originally Posted by Standalone View Post
The skewers will insert only as far as the threads.
Assuming nothing is bent and the threaded portion of the skewer will insert, you could (in theory) file the remaining portion of the skewer to fit.

They’re unused ... and soon as new.
What's unused and "soon as new"?
SurferRosa is online now  
Old 06-25-20, 03:19 PM
  #11  
Standalone 
The Drive Side is Within
Thread Starter
 
Standalone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Haven, CT, USA
Posts: 3,398

Bikes: Road, Cargo, Tandem, Etc.

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 120 Post(s)
Liked 40 Times in 27 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
What's unused and "soon as new"?
Autocorrect obviously.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I did run it from the other side (was CERTAIN I had tried that, ha) and it worked. Looks like the issue is not a bent axle, but a burr on the inside of the non drive end of the axle. I’ll ream it out and see if that works.

cheers.









these four little marks seem to be part of the problem. They caused the axle to burr in a little bit.

Can’t tell y’all how many runs down to the basement wheel
storage room for different skewers I took on Sunday morning!
__________________
The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets. Christopher Morley
Standalone is offline  
Likes For Standalone:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.