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Old 07-07-20, 04:53 PM
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Rare Araya rim?

I bought an old road bike with some pretty steel Araya 27x1/4w/oHT Japan rims... but the texture is unique... thoughts?



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natloz , I guess the textured sidewalls are to help with braking while wet. They do look nice.

Can you post a photo of the bike?

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Old 07-07-20, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by branko_76 View Post
natloz , I guess the textured sidewalls are to help with braking while wet. They do look nice.

Can you post a phot of the bike?

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Old 07-07-20, 05:24 PM
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Nice looking bike !

Swap out those brake pads for some KOOL-STOP pads...

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They may be rare, but likely not valuable.
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Not unusual for the time it was produced. I think the idea was water shedding, but I don't think it worked.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
Not unusual for the time it was produced. I think the idea was water shedding, but I don't think it worked.
They were marginally better in the rain than plain steel ones.

Interestingly at least one manufacturer also made aluminium rims with serrations - Akront.
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Some low-end English bikes came with dimpled or stippled steel rims in the late '60s or early '70s, too. Those didn't work well, either, which is why they were produced for such a short time.
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They are rare like a 1979 Lincoln penny from the Denver Mint. Rare like a Schwinn Varsity.

Rare, as in worth something? No.
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Nisi had a dimpled offering as well in aluminium.
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Originally Posted by oneclick View Post
They were marginally better in the rain than plain steel ones.

Interestingly at least one manufacturer also made aluminium rims with serrations - Akront.
Weinmann made a few, evidently. I recall the 210 but learned there were also knurled tubular rims.


My memory of serrated steel rims in the rain is the song of the brake pads against the flats as I zoomed ever closer to doom at speed only slightly diminished.
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Sure made it easy to get noticed in a group ride!
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Not as common as the various Rigida textured but not valuable.

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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
They may be rare, but likely not valuable.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I simply have never seen a textured rim!
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Originally Posted by thumpism View Post
Weinmann made a few, evidently. I recall the 210 but learned there were also knurled tubular rims.


My memory of serrated steel rims in the rain is the song of the brake pads against the flats as I zoomed ever closer to doom at speed only slightly diminished.
Learned a new word today as it relates to "serrated" rims!
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Originally Posted by thumpism View Post
Weinmann made a few, evidently. I recall the 210 but learned there were also knurled tubular rims.


My memory of serrated steel rims in the rain is the song of the brake pads against the flats as I zoomed ever closer to doom at speed only slightly diminished.
Love the images! Thanks
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I picked this up for $10, with horizontal dropout it has SS in my mind.
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I picked this up for $10, with horizontal dropout it has SS in my mind.
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I have a set of Super Champion rims with textured rims like those.
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Weinmann made a few, evidently. I recall the 210 but learned there were also knurled tubular rims.
Yup, though I know little about them. The came on a late sixties Raleigh Carlton that came my way recently...


The rims are alloy, in good shape and do sport a braking surface pattern...


That said, steel or patterned, they do add, in my opinion, to the effectiveness of stopping. However, they are terribly noisy, offering a loud buzzing sound every time one hits the brakes.
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My wifes 1974 Raleigh GP has them. In combination with the Weinman brakes they were as useful as a card on the spokes.
1974 Raliegh Gran Prix, on Flickr
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I think Mavic called these a 'Sport' rim. Single wall alloy. There's another model without eyelets too.


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The subject rims are Araya 5H. The 'w/o HP' stands for 'wired-on, High Pressure'. Araya (and other Japanese rim companies, including Kaga and Ukai) called the sidewall impressions a roulette pattern, as they resembled the ball pockets of the wheel used in the gambling game called roulette. Roulette translates to 'little wheel', so the Japanese terminology is, in some ways, more appropriate than the more common 'serrations". The impressions are in the shape of triangles to resemble the stylized 'A' used in the Araya logo. The pattern also looks like an interlocked series of six spoked, though hexagonal, wheels.

Araya's roulette pattern was originally introduced on the wider (1-1/2") 5R rims, with the R designating roulette style sidewalls. They date back to at least 1960. The 5H was a narrower (1-1/4") version, originally offered with smooth sidewalls, with the roulette option being introduced during the 1970s bicycle boom, though the subject samples appear to be early 1980s based on the bicycle's crankset. They are fairly rare but, as noted, not valuable.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
Yup, though I know little about them. The came on a late sixties Raleigh Carlton that came my way recently...


The rims are alloy, in good shape and do sport a braking surface pattern...


That said, steel or patterned, they do add, in my opinion, to the effectiveness of stopping. However, they are terribly noisy, offering a loud buzzing sound every time one hits the brakes.
Ok, that is cool to see someone else with them! They will hear me like a Harley coming down the road!
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
My wifes 1974 Raleigh GP has them. In combination with the Weinman brakes they were as useful as a card on the spokes.
1974 Raliegh Gran Prix, on Flickr
My son will be jealous, although now they shove a spent water bottle between the fork and the tire...cards are old-school!
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