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Old 07-15-20, 06:07 PM
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"Sturmy Archer"

Never seen one of these before:

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Old 07-15-20, 06:10 PM
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There must have been English single-speeds with hand brakes but I can't recall seeing one. Interesting find.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds View Post
Never seen one of these before:

Indonesia, Malaysia had many single speed nubs for rod brake models in both 26 and 28" models.

British hubs made single speed hubs with cable drum brakes, your choice of single of fixed cogs.



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I meant I've seen many Sturmey Archer single speed freewheels, but never a Sturmy Archer.
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^^^^ I saw that even on the list page, before opening the thread, and kinda guessed it would be something like this.

Surprised it doesn't say "Ingland".

Isn't there some (in)famous old stem out there with a similar gaffe? I'm blanking on what it is.
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Old 07-15-20, 08:57 PM
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Well, I had a Hercules 3-speed some time back with a rear Sturmey Archer hub with a date stamp that included the month "13." We're not talking precision engineering.
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Still in business, all in Taiwan now, I fear.
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Old 07-15-20, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tkamd73 View Post
Still in business, all in Taiwan now, I fear.
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Those are not real Sturmy Archer.

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Old 07-15-20, 11:00 PM
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Brevity and naughty bastardizations of the English language are the witticisms of of Mr. Arthur Seaton, the man at Nottingham stamping machine No. 13.

He was dishonorably demoted from turning bottom bracket spindles.

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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
^^^^ I saw that even on the list page, before opening the thread, and kinda guessed it would be something like this.

Surprised it doesn't say "Ingland".

Isn't there some (in)famous old stem out there with a similar gaffe? I'm blanking on what it is.
Ambrosio Gran Prix, marked "MADE IN JTALY"
See: Bloopers
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Old 07-15-20, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Brevity and naughty bastardizations of the English language are the witticisms of of Mr. Arthur Seaton, the man at Nottingham stamping machine No. 13.

He was dishonorably demoted from turning bottom bracket spindles.

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Stormy Arthur?


Your post, however, constitutes the only time he's ever been called "Mr." -- innit?
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Well, I had a Hercules 3-speed some time back with a rear Sturmey Archer hub with a date stamp that included the month "13." We're not talking precision engineering.
much later the UK declared a 12/32/1980 for the Lear Fan, so 13 date was curious.
also, way back in Roman times there were extra days on occasion to align the calendar to the heavens
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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
Stormy Arthur? Your post, however, constitutes the only time he's ever been called "Mr." -- innit?
Quite a few local Nottingham women have called him Mr...just before slapping him in the face.

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I'm holding out for Sturmy Daniels' finest.
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I'm holding out for Sturmy Daniels' finest.
Just hit any frame with this.




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I saw the spelling and immediately thought of that place in Pakistan where traditional methods of craftsmanship are still in use making assorted firearms of various patterns. They used to make stuff complete with faux proof marks and misspellings. Perhaps someone there needed a freewheel?

A friend of mine once purchased a Martini-Henri chambered in .303 British that turned out to be the product of that village. He test-fired it, and while the arm didn't explode, it did require the use of a pry bar to operate the breech block lever to extract the fired casing, which was frighteningly elongated.
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Originally Posted by rustystrings61 View Post
I saw the spelling and immediately thought of that place in Pakistan where traditional methods of craftsmanship are still in use making assorted firearms of various patterns. They used to make stuff complete with faux proof marks and misspellings. Perhaps someone there needed a freewheel?
I believe that hub is off the OP's fairly original 1948 Raleigh Tourist, so probably not the case.

Reynolds - this does bring up the question whether this is a Model 2L Tourist or a 1L Popular with a chaincase. The Tourist came standard with a 3-speed AW; the Popular had the singlespeed hub.

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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
I believe that hub is off the OP's fairly original 1948 Raleigh Tourist, so probably not the case.

Reynolds - this does bring up the question whether this is a Model 2L Tourist or a 1L Popular with a chaincase. The Tourist came standard with a 3-speed AW; the Popular had the singlespeed hub.

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I think you nailed it. 1948 Raleigh 1L Popular. Thanks!
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Those are not real Sturmy Archer.
They can’t possibly be, according to Yahoo or Goggle search Sturmy Archer doesn’t exist, even though it obviously did. Only comes up with Sturmey Archer. Or we just have a spelling issue.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds View Post
Those are not real Sturmy Archer.
New Owners actually Improved the Quality ..

I have a set of 30 year old alloy shell S-A Drum brake hubs .. British Elite is now standard model.. they supply Brompton Too ..

Ferrari is a Division of Fiat, now they also own a big chunk of Chrysler in the US.. would turn down a Ferrari because of that business deal?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
New Owners actually Improved the Quality ..

I have a set of 30 year old alloy shell S-A Drum brake hubs .. British Elite is now standard model.. they supply Brompton Too ..

Ferrari is a Division of Fiat, now they also own a big chunk of Chrysler in the US.. would turn down a Ferrari because of that business deal?
Thanks, I certainly have no issues with the quality, appear to be well made hubs, flawless in function.
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New Owners actually Improved the Quality ..
SunRace also finally started production on the rotary-shifter versions that Sturmey had held patents on for 30 years - and never produced.

That's not to say everything from SunRace Sturmey has been perfect (ahem, 8-speed hubs), but I have no complaints with the tried and true products. The adaptation of the SunRace 7-speed shifter into the DLS-30 3-speed thumb shifter is also a welcome addition. Second best 3-speed shifter to the original triggers.

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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
Isn't there some (in)famous old stem out there with a similar gaffe? I'm blanking on what it is.
Two of them in fact: Nitto RAUNDONER and SR (Sakae) RANDDNER.

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Never seen one of these before:


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