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Old 07-17-20, 01:24 PM
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^^^^^^ "Spirit of Detroit" holding a hammer - rocks!

And the row of hanging frames behind him recalls the Mike Appel / Dick Nolan photo from the Trek brochures of 40 years ago.
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Old 07-17-20, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
ďThis is the first time Schwinns have been manufactured in the U.S. in a long time."

Haven't Schwinn periodically teamed up with Waterford on some anniversary Paramount bikes?
details, details...
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Old 07-17-20, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
details, details...
Never let facts get in the way of a good story.
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Old 07-17-20, 02:06 PM
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Marketing guys are not known for being good historians.
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Old 07-17-20, 04:10 PM
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Depends on one's definition of "a long time". When was the last US Paramount built? This century?
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Old 07-17-20, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
Depends on one's definition of "a long time". When was the last US Paramount built? This century?
2013

https://bikerumor.com/2013/12/09/lim...-by-waterford/

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Old 07-17-20, 04:41 PM
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'Course, that's the other question - does a limited run of 25 constitute "manufacturing"? Maybe the person making that statement should have said "produced for the mass market" or some such.
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Well a Chicago Schwinn beats a Detroit Schwinn, right?
Only if they're being sold by weight.
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Old 07-17-20, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
'Course, that's the other question - does a limited run of 25 constitute "manufacturing"? Maybe the person making that statement should have said "produced for the mass market" or some such.
What do you see as the difference between manufacturing and produced for the mass market?
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Old 07-17-20, 05:08 PM
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What do you see as the difference between manufacturing and produced for the mass market?
I was just illustrating the difference between a boutique build like the 25-off 2013 Paramount and the Schwinns being made in Detroit for the mass market. US manufacturing of Schwinns on the level -- and at the price point -- of the Detroit Schwinns has indeed not been done in a long time.
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Old 07-17-20, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jiangshi View Post
Sounds like you are in the market for a Shinola watch. Buy American. /s
or maybe in the market for a Shinola bike! The Detroit Arrow at $995 has a F/F made by Waterford, wheels assembled in Detroit area, and final assembly at the famed Argonaut building in Detroit where Harley Earl worked his magic in vehicle design at GM.
I recently sold a 70ís road bike frame to a man in his late 20ís / early 30ís who drove in from Cleveland. He said he loved how much Detroit was a bicycle town with all the manufacturers, bike paths/lanes. Especially intriguing to him was the Detroit Bicycle Company and some of the different things they were doing with polished metal , etched metal, etc.
Letís celebrate the people going against the odds and building here including the plucky Detroit Bike Company!

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Old 07-17-20, 07:25 PM
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Oh man, now I'm nostalgic for a cold Stroh's. Or at least a Vernors.
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Old 07-18-20, 12:04 PM
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Oh man, now I'm nostalgic for a cold Stroh's. Or at least a Vernors.
Current Strohís is made by Pabst. Doesnt taste the same as original Strohís. But Vernors still tastes the same!
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Old 07-18-20, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
And watch all the lights in Cook County dim every time they throw the switch on the electroforge machine......
+1; Imagine the audacity of employing Americans in the manufacturing sector, presumably at living wage, in a city that desperately needs every such job that can be created. It may be an economic drop in the bucket, esp. in these times, but who knows, one small nugget of economic/manufacturing success, followed by another, a few jobs at a time, might be the key to turning things around.
I'm sure this is a toe-in-the-water for Dorel. Is it economically feasible/viable to manufacture in the US in the current/future economic climate? If this run works out, maybe look at future projects. Maybe help Detroit expand their operations to build more runs. Taiwan's salaries are rising, so maybe, down the line, it stops being so attractive to have bike frames welded together in a low-wage economy that isn't so low-wage any more.
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Old 07-20-20, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowride79 View Post
or maybe in the market for a Shinola bike! The Detroit Arrow at $995 has a F/F made by Waterford, wheels assembled in Detroit area, and final assembly at the famed Argonaut building in Detroit where Harley Earl worked his magic in vehicle design at GM.
I recently sold a 70ís road bike frame to a man in his late 20ís / early 30ís who drove in from Cleveland. He said he loved how much Detroit was a bicycle town with all the manufacturers, bike paths/lanes. Especially intriguing to him was the Detroit Bicycle Company and some of the different things they were doing with polished metal , etched metal, etc.
Letís celebrate the people going against the odds and building here including the plucky Detroit Bike Company!

I have a Shinola Detroit Arrow. I guess itís a ďboutiqueĒ bike, and expensive for what it is (The Waterford frame must have a lot to do with the pricing), but being made in Detroit appeals to me. Iím not a China or Taiwan hater, but Iím willing to spend more for some things that are made in America.
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Old 07-20-20, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Leinster View Post
I'm sure this is a toe-in-the-water for Dorel. Is it economically feasible/viable to manufacture in the US in the current/future economic climate? If this run works out, maybe look at future projects. Maybe help Detroit expand their operations to build more runs. Taiwan's salaries are rising, so maybe, down the line, it stops being so attractive to have bike frames welded together in a low-wage economy that isn't so low-wage any more.
The problem is that I don't think it's a toe in the water. This isn't a return of big factories to the US, it's a small operation making boutique city bikes priced at luxury goods costs (eg Shinola). Which is fine, except that they're using the imagery and politics of the abandonment of manufacturing jobs as a selling point - look, Detroit is back, manufacturing jobs are back, the good times are back - when it's really not, and this is providing a handful of jobs at most.

America has always had a romantic attachment to the manufacturing job, and companies love to play on that- what they don't like to do is pay for employees to actually make stuff here.

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Old 07-20-20, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sheddle View Post
The problem is that I don't think it's a toe in the water. This isn't a return of big factories to the US, it's a small operation making boutique city bikes priced at luxury goods costs (eg Shinola). Which is fine, except that they're using the imagery and politics of the abandonment of manufacturing jobs as a selling point - look, Detroit is back, manufacturing jobs are back, the good times are back - when it's really not, and this is providing a handful of jobs at most.

America has always had a romantic attachment to the manufacturing job, and companies love to play on that- what they don't like to do is pay for employees to actually make stuff here.
My point is that, eventually, they may have little choice. Manufacturing has fled from the developed nations, to developing nation after developing nation, and each time abandoning said developing nation to move to a less-developed one. Sooner or later (much, muuuuch later, it must be said), all nations will be developed enough that none will hold a major price advantage over another, and folks can got back to competing on quality. And nationalistic pride, too, if you will.
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Interesting article.

$1000 for a Collegiate is right in line with everything else thats happened in 2020. Nothing surprises me at this point.
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"Collegiate" and "Schwinn" are just recognizable names. If the quality of the Detroit made "Collegiate" matches the price tag, then I don't see a problem with calling it "Collegiate" or "Junior College Dropout", or whatever.
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