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rosefarts 07-27-20 02:50 PM

The old water bottle dilemma.
 
Same story, different characters.

1986 Spectrum, almost showroom nice, has one water bottle.

Anyway, I thought it would be pretty cool to do a century on it, since the previous owner never did. All good bikes deserve to have someone suffer as part of their story, told or not.

So my plan was to enter a sponsored ride and just use the aid stations. We know how well that's going this year...

So water bottles in the pockets? I've done a single middle for long distances before and it's fine. Not so sure about more than that though.

Handlebar mount? The bike is 80s, not 60s, seems out of place.

Seat-tube has a Zefal hp X3 that has been on the bike since it was new. It's perfect there but is too short for the top tube. I'd rather not ditch it. If it did fit, I'd get a nice clamp on adapter and polish it silver. No pump peg on the bike anyway.

Behind the seat? It's not a tri bike. At all.

CamelBak? No.

Wife meet me every 35 miles with snacks and a fresh bottle? I'm guessing no.

I'd like to do a country open road type of thing, there might not be enough convenience stores to just fill up when I'm thirsty.

Kind of a dilemma since I'm not psyched on any of the ideas.

bikingshearer 07-27-20 03:01 PM

Get this.

https://www.greggscycles.com/product...0%243.99%20USD

Cheap. Effective. Two of my bikes have these. They work great. They look fine, although the bottle will be a little bit off center (not a big deal in my book).

superdex 07-27-20 03:02 PM

Plan your route to include stops, plenty of online tools to do that. Or get over the aesthetic of the behind-the-seat. Function>form on this one....

scarlson 07-27-20 03:07 PM

Under the downtube with clamp-on cage, like an old tourer? If you situate it right, the bottle won't decrease ground clearance and you can fit a decent sized one under there.

3alarmer 07-27-20 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by bikingshearer (Post 21609999)
Get this.

https://www.greggscycles.com/product...0%243.99%20USD

Cheap. Effective. Two of my bikes have these. They work great. They look fine, although the bottle will be a little bit off center (not a big deal in my book).


...I use those (or a similar one) a lot, especially on frames without bosses that I don't need to repaint. They work well and are pretty simple to add (for one day in this case) and remove if no longer needed. If you need a lot of water, you can add two of them.

daverup 07-27-20 03:18 PM

My 78 Schwinn didn't come with any mounts, and I didn't really want the clamp on the frame type. So, I went with the simple handlebar mount.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e2e1d51a6.jpg

3alarmer 07-27-20 03:19 PM

And it gives me yet another spot to hang my helment...
 
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7c618ca1c8.jpg

nlerner 07-27-20 03:29 PM

I’d vote for clamp on cage for the down tube, ditch the pump, and carry a mini pump or co2 in your kit.

AeroGut 07-27-20 04:02 PM

Or get a handlebar bag or a large underseat bag and put some extra bottles in it along with anything else you might want along the way.

Vintage_Cyclist 07-27-20 04:21 PM

Get a Zefal pump peg for the top tube and clamps to hold a water bottle on the seat tube (DMR clamps work very well).


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d5bb6767b4.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c9b58f8be9.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b2d8c03ff6.jpg

WGB 07-27-20 04:38 PM

Not seeing the issue with bar mounted bottle cages. I have two on my League Fuji as well as singles on seat tube and down tube. I'd say behind seat might be more aerodynamic but bar mounts look cool to me.

3speedslow 07-27-20 04:43 PM

If your bike truly demands suffering on your part, hydrate well beforehand and go with what you got. Find water as you go. Wear the salt with pride and your bike will love you for it.

Or, do the temp attachments that everybody has told you about. You will be fine and I admire your dedication to the sport!

jjames1452 07-27-20 04:48 PM

I use my Camelback, and carry the pump there. It did not seem like you were keen on that idea.
This way, one water bottle on the frame serves as the emergency water.

I also like the idea of asking my wife to meet me every 35 miles on my next long ride.
She could bring not only water, but fresh fruit, granola, etc. Maybe foot massages.
She is stoked about my having 5 bikes in the garage instead of the two I am allowed to have. I think she will be supportive of being my personal SAG.
I explained it is not really 5 bikes. Two are legitimately there. One is to be repaired. One is my work bike I need to take to my office.
And my Tempo is just my......I forgot why the Tempo didn't count. But it didn"t.

Best of luck!!

Piff 07-27-20 05:11 PM

+1 for the minoura bh60 handlebar mount.

rosefarts 07-27-20 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by jjames1452 (Post 21610209)
I use my Camelback, and carry the pump there. It did not seem like you were keen on that idea.
This way, one water bottle on the frame serves as the emergency water.

I also like the idea of asking my wife to meet me every 35 miles on my next long ride.
She could bring not only water, but fresh fruit, granola, etc. Maybe foot massages.
She is stoked about my having 5 bikes in the garage instead of the two I am allowed to have. I think she will be supportive of being my personal SAG.
I explained it is not really 5 bikes. Two are legitimately there. One is to be repaired. One is my work bike I need to take to my office.
And my Tempo is just my......I forgot why the Tempo didn't count. But it didn"t.

Best of luck!!

Well, it was just the Tallerico, but I quickly needed a nice steel Voodoo for gravel. The Spectrum just sort of materialized, and I'm not quite sure how long the mountain bike was there before she noticed. Between the Burley and like 42 strollers, I felt ok about it. I probably won't add another without buying a bigger house.

Her relationship with my cycling is tentative. Fortunately, I'm currently fast enough that I can get home in time to be of some help, depending on the wind.

nlerner 07-27-20 06:24 PM

Another option: Sawyer Products MINI Water Filtration System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2..._Ma3hFb43FRFMP

rosefarts 07-27-20 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 21610372)
Another option: Sawyer Products MINI Water Filtration System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FA2RLX2..._Ma3hFb43FRFMP

I actually have a life straw, a steri pen, and some collapsible bottle with a filter. I use them in the mountains but the idea of filtering cow runoff and whatever hits the river from the city, doesn't appeal to me, even filtered.

davester 07-27-20 06:43 PM

Don't you carry a small saddlebag or handlebar bag to keep tools and spares in? If so, just get a bigger one that can accomodate a water bottle and some snacks.

John E 07-27-20 07:08 PM

The only thing better than one Minoura is two. :)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9a2540b0b0.jpg

Miele Man 07-27-20 07:09 PM

Toe-straps can be used to carry extra water bottles.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bd615fb1a0.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...99f7f4c158.jpg
I've never had a bottle bounce off even on a dirt/gravel road. Dedicated bicycle water bottles are even more secure if the strap go around the recess in the bottle.

Cheers

70sSanO 07-27-20 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by rosefarts (Post 21609979)
Seat-tube has a Zefal hp X3 that has been on the bike since it was new. It's perfect there but is too short for the top tube. I'd rather not ditch it. If it did fit, I'd get a nice clamp on adapter and polish it silver. No pump peg on the bike anyway.

Why polish, add a pump peg and get a Classic HPX-4 already polished (scroll half way down)...
Zefal & Topeak Bicycle Frame Pumps- For Road Bikes -at Yellow Jersey. Or Zfal, if you will.

It's not cost effective. and you may need more than 2 bottles, but if a 4 will fit, they are pretty cool.

John

rosefarts 07-27-20 07:33 PM

John,

Sorry, I was unclear. I was referring to polished clamps on the water bottle cage if the frame pump could mount on the top tube. Turns out, someone up thread showed me exactly that, so that's encouraging.

I might just shove a bottle in my pockets and roll.

steelbikeguy 07-27-20 07:34 PM

just because it's not unreasonable, let me offer some support for the idea of just carrying a bottle or two in the jersey pockets. I do it now and then.

To lend it a bit of authenticity, I've got a photo of a friend in the 1982 Iron Horse Classic bike race in Durango, CO where he rode the road stage with one bottle in the frame cage and two in his jersey pockets.

https://live.staticflickr.com/5291/5...2222d9_c_d.jpg

Steve in Peoria

due ruote 07-27-20 07:39 PM

Maybe the pump could go along the seat stay? Works for me.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...941d804ec4.jpg

merziac 07-27-20 08:19 PM

rosefarts

These are great for the job, admittedly not very correct or elegant but work very well for me and really do have a good vibe with the stainless.

They are a bit spendy but worth it to me.






https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bb966222cb.jpg
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