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Are there really any classic and or vintage rules?

Old 07-29-20, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
I agree, but that doesn't mean I agree with not going threadless on a C&V frame. You just gotta do it 'right', which at the time meant designing my own headset.

As my fleet is undergoing another massive change, an adapter is the present low-(relative)-cost-yet-effective solution for getting the modern stem/bar/cockpit look. Once that is settled, I'd definitely like to get an Innicycle headset for the Land Shark (in black). I saw the video you posted of the mechanic who installed his, and it takes my appreciation for the design to an even higher level. Clever yet not fussy. Gold.
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Old 07-29-20, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ramzilla View Post
Seriously. The only rule about classic and vintage bikes is to get one for as little $ as possible. Put a ton of $ into it in order for it to be "perfect". Then, sell it for 1/2 what you have in it and, start all over again.
I overpaid for point 1, but I'm looking pretty good for #2 , and #3 if it doesn't fit right. Thanks for laying out #2 , I see so many fully bargain builds I wasn't sure if I was doing it right.
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Old 07-29-20, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Ride what you want.
Want what you ride.
Stick to this rule, and be satisfied.

Like what you build.
Build what you like.
Just remember, itís only a bike.

Oldish cool frames
Newish cool parts
Make going fast easy, for crotchety old farts.

You may ask now
But soon you will know..
It really donít matter, as long as they go.
Is this the official C&V drinking song?

Or, as-yet unofficial?

Love it!
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Old 07-29-20, 09:49 PM
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Over at the Classic Rendevous site (many of us post to both), there are definite rules.
Here, some people care about some "rules", most don't.

Some of my best friends ride carbon fiber...
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Old 07-29-20, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
Some of my best friends ride carbon fiber...
A little crabon fibre is the herd is a good thing IMO!

I have a wide range of bikes in herd, my current favorite is a my 3 speed coaster brake steel framed road bike, but its also always nice to throw a leg over my 2016 Roubaix... My 72' Super Course? That bike has no business being as fast as it is, 8 pounds heavier than my roubaix, yet it still smashes the hell out of any and all hills I point it at? I even love my very heavy Schwinn Continental thats out east, it does not smash hills like my Super Course, but it likes to go. My 63 Hercules resto mod 3 speed? I'd cut my pinky off with a spoon for that bike! My 1968 5 speed sturmey Raleigh Sprite? You could travel 1000 years into the future and still not find a better townie than my Sprite! But I do also quite like my crabon! I'm kinda itchin for a new bike project, but my housemate/friend since 8th grade/landlord has been kinda *****ing about all my bikes, so I should probably only pick up 2 or 3 more over the next year?
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Old 07-30-20, 01:09 AM
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Rule: Don't drew the RD hanger. You may want to change that fixie back into a real bike someday.

(Full disclosure: My fixie originally came without an RD hanger - '72 Super Course.)
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Old 07-30-20, 03:02 AM
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Non-aero brake housing should not be unnecessarily long for any reason, not even for use as a clothesline on your tourer.
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Old 07-30-20, 05:27 AM
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[QUOTE=Lascauxcaveman;21614588]Rule: Don't drew the RD hanger. You may want to change that fixie back into a real bike someday.

I would expand on this to propose ď donít use a hacksaw or grinder on the frameĒ unless for repairs
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Old 07-30-20, 01:22 PM
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Somehow missed the part about no downtube bosses when I mentioned 7700 downtube shifters.

And yes, please share some pics.
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Old 07-30-20, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
I agree, but that doesn't mean I agree with not going threadless on a C&V frame. You just gotta do it 'right', which at the time meant designing my own headset.

Tasteful horizontal threadless stem adaptation - C&V .

21st-Century answer to Ashtabula crank - C&V

KIDDING; I know it's a major advancement, but I just never liked the look of that style of crank, esp on an old bike.
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Old 07-30-20, 02:53 PM
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what works for you is cool

I can only think of one hard and fast rule: No loosening drop bars and rotating them back
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Old 07-30-20, 03:14 PM
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The only rule is, carry your own water, and smartphone, so you can un-lose yourself, when you get lost. 🤔😎😁
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Old 07-30-20, 03:25 PM
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Rules?

if you are a
Serious Collector/Stickler - lots of rules
Casual Collector/ rider - some rules
Average Joe cyclist - no rules

'I saw a movie bike' rider = crazy rules

Hardcore cyclist/adventurer - probably not strictly C&V, but not always
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So, the correct answer is = It Depends. On you!
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Old 07-30-20, 03:50 PM
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[QUOTE=Whit51;21614685]
Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
I would expand on this to propose “ don’t use a hacksaw or grinder on the frame” unless for repairs
Er, uh...

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Old 07-30-20, 03:59 PM
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Maybe I should further expand this to say ďunless you are an expert frame builder adding functional enhancements consistent with the original design concept and aesthetics of the bike in question.Ē

Thatís the problem with rules, there are always special situations that warrant exceptions.

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Originally Posted by Whit51 View Post
Thatís the problem with rules, there are always special situations that warrant exceptions.
Yeah I think there's a rule about that.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
I can only think of one rule. When you post the photo of the completed project, make it's taken from the drive side. It's a little know fact that Team Cinzano's annoyance with Dave Stoller was actually due to his showing them the non-drive of his Masi.
OK. One rule. Tell Dave to shorten his brake cables, or he gets the pump.
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OK. One rule. Tell Dave to shorten his brake cables, or he gets the pump.
Good point. A guy who drafts semi-trucks at 60 mph should not take chances with getting tangled up in his brake cables.
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Yeah, Lots of rules. Better stick to them.




I've never had an opportunity to use that before.

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Yeah, Lots of rules. Better stick to them.




I've never had an opportunity to use that before.

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That applies to the whole COVID predicament we find ourselves in and could become far more relevant at anytime, IMHO, just sayin.
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
OK. One rule. Tell Dave to shorten his brake cables, or he gets the pump.
Whiskey Tango, that's two threads in one day referencing that scene...??....
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Originally Posted by ramzilla View Post
Rules? We don't need no stinkin rules...............

Seriously. The only rule about classic and vintage bikes is to get one for as little $ as possible. Put a ton of $ into it in order for it to be "perfect". Then, sell it for 1/2 what you have in it and, start all over again.
Nailed it.
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Originally Posted by cs1 View Post
As the title states, are there really any rules for what we consider a classic or vintage bike? The reason Iím asking is Iím putting together a project bike. It is a 1999 Waterford. It was the last year for a full Reynolds 531 frame and fork for Waterford. That and the fact is a lugged frame wit a 1Ē fork. If you didnít know most folks would say itís a typical 80ís era bike. The only non vintage thing is no down tube bosses. But thatís isnít a problem if you use barcon shifters.

Any opinions or suggestions for a proper group.
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#1 Don't buy a '80s or older steel bike because " I like vintage bikes " and upgrade it with a carbon brifter group, wheels and fork

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