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Old 08-04-20, 09:26 AM
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It isn't a matter of "correct" or not. Top down was historically how most people wrapped cotton tape during the cotton tape era. So I guess historically correct would be accurate. Wrap it any way you like that works for you. Even BITD there would have been a few rebels who taped, er, backwards. I believe in Europe it was more of a thing.

The trend of wrapping bottom up more or less begin with the great cello tape craze. The instructions IIRC said to tape bottoms up, so we did. This was followed by a rising popularity for bike ribbon, which also said wrap bottoms up, and gave you a little piece of tape to hold the top. Thus begin the tape thing. When aero levers started to be a thing, that was when electrical tape termination begin. You needed a little extra help to hold the housing. I always hated electrical tape myself. The oozing sticky adhesive is annoying.

In my experience, it makes little to no difference which way the tape is wrapped. If anything for me it holds up longer if wrapped top down. I've done this experiment dozens of times by now. Obviously what works best for you is an individualistic thing, depending on how you grip the bars, where you spend the most time, etc. Just saying the absolute maxim that tape lasts longer if wrapped from the bottom up is not absolute. It depends.
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Old 08-04-20, 10:05 AM
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I taped my bottom up once when I was a kid. Didn't last long.
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Old 08-04-20, 10:09 AM
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Why are you surprised that top down is favored on the CV forum, some of us are Luddites here, and proud of it! If your tape job is peeling or slipping, you didn’t do it right, I’ve never even had an issue with cello tape. If you want more support for bottoms up, post on a different forum. Besides, bike ribbon looks as silly as it sounds, especially on a CV bike.
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Top down Benotto cello tape, triple layered, after 500 plus mi
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Old 08-04-20, 10:19 AM
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Don't see why you have to take it so personally. The thread started about cloth tape, and in my experience bottom-up works better for the reasons stated. Synthetic tapes are different, as Sheldon's page notes.
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Old 08-04-20, 10:26 AM
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Whereíd that ďOK BoomerĒ thread go?
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Old 08-04-20, 10:31 AM
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To simply answer the OP's question, yes you will have to tuck the end of the tape into the bar end no matter which direction you choose to wrap the bars "unless" you want to use tape at the bottom of the bar.
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Old 08-04-20, 10:54 AM
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Whose taking it personally? This is what I hate about texted conversation, sarcasm and humor are totally lost, do I really have to use a smiley emoji? Is there even a sarcasm emoji? If we were having this conversation in person, we’d probably all be laughing about it over a beer. Future wars will be started due to the lack of, face to face communication, and yes, the OP’s question was answered before we got to #6 .
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Old 08-04-20, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
It now occurs to me that you could tape the tops starting from the top and tape the drops starting from the bar end and leave the ends of both sections snugly taped to the outside of the brake lever and tucked under the hood, much as I did, but using the bar lever as the destination for both parts of the wrap.

That way you have the clean look of starting from the top and the simplicity of starting from the bottom without having to tuck inside the bar end or having to use tape or twine to secure the top.

Probably not traditional enough for some, but I think itís another good option.

Otto

Normally I wrap cotton tape from the top down. Recently, I put bar end shifters on my LeTour, so I wrapped from bottom up. This wrapping from the bottom to the brake hood and the top to the brake hood is a good idea that I will try next time. I am surprised that I have not come across this before. This is only possible, of course when the bike has rubber hoods.

As for the original intent of this thread, my preference for cotton is top down. Nice color on the tape by the way. I rarely deviate from black or white for handlebar tape, but this yellow looks good with the violet and yellow graphics on the frame.
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Old 08-04-20, 11:26 AM
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In my experience, cotton is easier to work with compared to more "modern" tapes, and the adhesive makes top down wrapping clean and effective.
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Old 08-04-20, 11:30 AM
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Another method of taping that is rarely seen anymore is the method where you make an X and a loop around the brake levers. It didn't require that little extra piece around the lever mounting band. This method was utilized because brake lever hoods were not always used, and that extra wrap covered up at least part of the bare metal of that the brake lever, making sort of a quasi hood. Many people continued to wrap this way even with hoods, I suppose because it's how they were taught. It really only works with cotton or thin plastic tape, or that 70s velvet tape stuff. I remember some mechanics trying to wrap that way when cork tape came out, which was pretty hilarious. *

* This method was a variation of the wrapping style in the RJ the bike guy video in post #9

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Old 08-04-20, 11:30 AM
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East Coast/West Coast, Ginger/Mary Ann, Top Down/Bottom Up... some questions may never be settled.
(It's Mary Ann).
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Old 08-04-20, 11:38 AM
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Mary Ann. Correct.
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Old 08-04-20, 11:45 AM
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Cello tape is so superior, it only requires three layers.

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Old 08-04-20, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bianchi84
East Coast/West Coast, Ginger/Mary Ann, Top Down/Bottom Up... some questions may never be settled.
(It's Mary Ann).
Thank god for guys like you! Your preference for Marry Ann means that I don't have to elbow past as many other guys in order to light Ginger's cigarette for her and fall madly in love the second she gazes into my eyes...

As for bottom up, there isn't anything really wrong with it. Just like there isn't anything really wrong with holding a bolt in a vice and rotating your entire bike around in order to screw it in...
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Old 08-04-20, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by robertorolfo
Thank god for guys like you! Your preference for Marry Ann means that I don't have to elbow past as many other guys in order to light Ginger's cigarette for her and fall madly in love the second she gazes into my eyes...

As for bottom up, there isn't anything really wrong with it. Just like there isn't anything really wrong with holding a bolt in a vice and rotating your entire bike around in order to screw it in...
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Old 08-04-20, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tkamd73
If the plug is a tight fit a rubber mallet comes in handy. Top down with adhesive tape is a no-brainer, never had it unravel gripping the bars. Prefer a clean look at the top of the bars.
Tim

I have persuaded a few in with my rubber mallet!! Patience grasshopper! NICE Bianchi by the way!!!
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Originally Posted by madpogue
Cello tape is so superior, it only requires three layers.

Mary Ann.
Nah, itís the only way I could get the color I wanted, dark blue, silver, then medium blue.
Tim ( Maryann fan)
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Old 08-04-20, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12
I have persuaded a few in with my rubber mallet!! Patience grasshopper! NICE Bianchi by the way!!!
Thanks!
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Old 08-04-20, 01:27 PM
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White Velox, Top down
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Ok, but how do you do it with barcons?
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
Ok, but how do you do it with barcons?
Easy, the same way you do it with Velox plugs. Do a preliminary set up, and tape the shift housing to the drops. Pull out barcon temporarily. Wrap your bars from the top down and tuck in the end. Plug in the barcons and tighten them down.
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Old 08-04-20, 02:21 PM
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Wow, I just learned something new.

I've never seen shellacked cloth tape. It's gorgeous. At least on an old bike it is. Top down looks best, and I've never gone that direction before.

So now I've got another project to tackle.

For bar end plugs, silver, black, or so other?
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
Wow, I just learned something new.

I've never seen shellacked cloth tape. It's gorgeous. At least on an old bike it is. Top down looks best, and I've never gone that direction before.

So now I've got another project to tackle.

For bar end plugs, silver, black, or so other?
What color is the bike paint? Are you using blacked out components, silver, etc.
Bottom line, go with Oil Slick anodized.
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Old 08-04-20, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
What color is the bike paint? Are you using blacked out components, silver, etc.
Bottom line, go with Oil Slick anodized.

its actually shinier than that, I think my lens is dirty.

So I'm thinking white cloth with Amber shellac to get close to the gold. Polished aluminum endcaps would work, or black anodized. I may change the hoods to black, as it had those (cracked badly) when I got it. I'm probably not going to use that seat bag. It's 30% too large for the style.

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Old 08-04-20, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchi84
White Velox, Top down
this is the same stuff with just a single stripe of adhesive in the middle?
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