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Old 08-03-20, 02:21 PM
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Raleigh Grand Sports en Francais

I spied some gold flecks in a non drive side seller photos this morning and decided to take a gamble. Simplex Super LJ groupset with early Dura Ace hub wheels and a Nitto NJS track stem of all things. Thought you guys might appreciate it.

I have a PX-10 I think may be the eventual recipient of the LJ bits or I may just cuddle them.











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That's one angry looking stem. OEM? Or something after-market? Would someone go with that much drop to just pull it out, looks fairly close to a standard min insertion mark?
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Old 08-03-20, 04:30 PM
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A track stem^^^
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Old 08-03-20, 04:51 PM
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The whole bike is aftermarket except maybe the crankset.
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Old 08-03-20, 08:57 PM
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That's one angry looking stem.
And an incredibly frightened seatpost!
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Old 08-03-20, 09:12 PM
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And an incredibly frightened seatpost!
If you make a loud noise, they will dart back into their holes.
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Woo-Hoo!

And you even got the retrofrictions in gold as well.

Now you shall needs be locate some oro MAFAC levers.


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Old 08-04-20, 06:01 AM
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The previous owner got it from their friend and said it was uncomfortable to ride. My ratty plain lug PX-10 frame may not be pretty enough for all this bling now.
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Old 08-04-20, 06:24 AM
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gugie outfitted one of his many Gran(d) Sport(s) with gold MAFAC bling, I believe.
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Funny how the shifter band partly covers that stop. Shouldn't it be further up, so the band is actually stopped by the stop?
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Old 08-04-20, 11:48 AM
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gugie outfitted one of his many Gran(d) Sport(s) with gold MAFAC bling, I believe.
Ah, found it: My Eroica ride
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Old 08-04-20, 01:40 PM
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Nice. I wish I could find one that size in Vancouver. If you ever get tired of it...
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rgvg- There's one about 10 km from me for C $400://www.kijiji.ca/v-road-bike/st-catharines/75-raleigh-carlton-gran-sport-57cm/1345234883



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Thanks a lot, but I'm a small guy so that one won't fit me. I see a lot of the usual Grand Prix but a bit higher end not really. There was this one International frameset that came up a year ago but I was too slow. Oh well.
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Its been listed for a while, I am tempted. Was looking at super course the other day - am I correct to assume Gran Sport was above SC (531DB main and stays on GS vs 531 plain gauge on SC for main and hi-ten for stays)?
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Its been listed for a while, I am tempted. Was looking at super course the other day - am I correct to assume Gran Sport was above SC (531DB main and stays on GS vs 531 plain gauge on SC for main and hi-ten for stays)?
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^^^ Yes, 531DB, but oddly, stamped dropouts. Alas, that one in St. Catharines has the delrin Simplex RD, and lacks the awesome star-pattern Stronglight (93?) crank. Brooks appears to be in good shape, as do the white "Carlton" hoods that usually get dirty just by looking at them.

A Chopper for a C-note......
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^^^ Yes, 531DB, but oddly, stamped dropouts. Alas, that one in St. Catharines has the delrin Simplex RD, and lacks the awesome star-pattern Stronglight (93?) crank. Brooks appears to be in good shape, as do the white "Carlton" hoods that usually get dirty just by looking at them.

A Chopper for a C-note......
Mine has what appear to maybe be forged, or at least nicer more 3D stamping, dropouts with a derailleur hanger to boot. It also has the Reynolds 531 Frame Tubes sticker with fork 531 stickers as well.
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^^^ Yes, 531DB, but oddly, stamped dropouts. Alas, that one in St. Catharines has the delrin Simplex RD, and lacks the awesome star-pattern Stronglight (93?) crank. Brooks appears to be in good shape, as do the white "Carlton" hoods that usually get dirty just by looking at them.

A Chopper for a C-note......
Almost all Gran Sports I saw IRL or internet had stamped ones, I wonder if there was a specific year after which they switched to forged.
I'd take it for ~$250, $300 CAD tops if frame is in excellent condition. But need to sell some first so will see how much longer it will last
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The stamped dropouts were the typically standard ones with Zeus forged/stamped with derailleur ear appearing on frames above 58 cm. Narhay's is the first smaller frame with integral hanger that I have ever seen. Check the pictures in this thread of larger frames: Show us your Raleigh Gran Sport/Grand Sport/Grand Sports

Some Grand Sports were 531 main tubes but some were full including forks and stays. This was the middle of the bike boom and they got whatever they needed to go out the door, I guess. This particular bike has been listed for at least two years so I figure you are somewhat safe to wait. WGB says the owner is quite firm on pricing so be of good cheer.
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The stamped dropouts were the typically standard ones with Zeus forged/stamped with derailleur ear appearing on frames above 58 cm. Narhay's is the first smaller frame with integral hanger that I have ever seen. Check the pictures in this thread of larger frames: Show us your Raleigh Gran Sport/Grand Sport/Grand Sports

Some Grand Sports were 531 main tubes but some were full including forks and stays. This was the middle of the bike boom and they got whatever they needed to go out the door, I guess. This particular bike has been listed for at least two years so I figure you are somewhat safe to wait. WGB says the owner is quite firm on pricing so be of good cheer.
thank you, i found OK condition SC on kijiji, guy has two of them for sale, one in my size. Almost bought it but the sale which was supposed to fund it fell through. I plan to rebuild it as single speed so I can start to work on my Belgian Bertin. I was riding it SS for the last several years and it is probably my favorite frame. Playmg with the idea of brazing on posts for cantis and potentially going with 650b - it has good clearance and high BB. And since Iíve been slowly downsizing - Bertin at the moment is my only road SS so need to replace it with something else before proceeding with grand plans.
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