20yrs bike picking. I've had finds, but this one......whew
08-09-20, 09:40 PM
#1
2k miles from the midwest
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,165
Bikes: Cinelli Hobootleg, Falcon San Remo, Benotto 2000 are the top 3 now
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 199 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
145 Posts
20yrs bike picking. I've had finds, but this one......whew
Sooo a 10spd Pinarello bike popped up on FB this evening. More pics coming tomorrow after I've had a chance to clean and look over. My heart is still racing 4hrs later. First pic is as found. I had time to take off the aerobar and move the shifters where they belong and take if for a very short ride tonight. It's my size. The kicker is that I've never really been into the whole Italian thing. I"m more of a Brooks/Riv type of rider, so I'm already in a quandry what to do.
Likes For Dylansbob:
08-09-20, 09:55 PM
#2
Ellensburg, WA
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ellensburg, WA
Posts: 3,641
Bikes: See my signature
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 274 Post(s)
Liked 228 Times
in
99 Posts
Very cool - what are the components?
__________________
1984 Gitane Sprint; 1984 Gitane Tour de France; 1982 Trek 610; 1968 Peugeot PL8; 1982 Nishiki Marina 12; 1972 Peugeot PX-10; 1984 Peugeot PSV; 1993 Trek 950 mtb; 1997 Klein Pulse Comp mtb; 1989 Peugeot Limestone hybrid (for touring); 1975 Gitane Olympic; 1982 Nishiki Maxima, 1983 Vitus 979; Custom late-80's Rodriguez
1984 Gitane Sprint; 1984 Gitane Tour de France; 1982 Trek 610; 1968 Peugeot PL8; 1982 Nishiki Marina 12; 1972 Peugeot PX-10; 1984 Peugeot PSV; 1993 Trek 950 mtb; 1997 Klein Pulse Comp mtb; 1989 Peugeot Limestone hybrid (for touring); 1975 Gitane Olympic; 1982 Nishiki Maxima, 1983 Vitus 979; Custom late-80's Rodriguez
08-09-20, 11:00 PM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 943
Bikes: Peugeot, Legnano, Fuji, Zunow, De Rosa, Miyata, Bianchi, Pinarello, Specialized, Bridgestone
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 274 Post(s)
Liked 122 Times
in
63 Posts
What to do: Treat like what it is now, your fast bike.
Makes me miss my Pin.
Makes me miss my Pin.
Likes For billytwosheds:
08-09-20, 11:00 PM
#4
Friendship is Magic
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Big Tomato
Posts: 19,445
Bikes: old ones
Mentioned: 274 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20821 Post(s)
Liked 3,810 Times
in
2,803 Posts
...
...with all the chrome on the stays, that looks like a Montello. I have a similar purple one set up with 8 cogs in the back that I ride a lot lately.
I think that's probably a Mavic "starfish" crank. Strange that someone set it up like a triathlon bike. You could do that and get as good a result with a much cheaper machine.
The one I ride here is set up with Dura-Ace, maybe a year or two different. Those headsets are bombproof, don't change it
...with all the chrome on the stays, that looks like a Montello. I have a similar purple one set up with 8 cogs in the back that I ride a lot lately.
I think that's probably a Mavic "starfish" crank. Strange that someone set it up like a triathlon bike. You could do that and get as good a result with a much cheaper machine.
The one I ride here is set up with Dura-Ace, maybe a year or two different. Those headsets are bombproof, don't change it
Likes For 3alarmer:
08-09-20, 11:14 PM
#5
If I own it, I ride it
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cardinal Country
Posts: 5,192
Bikes: Lejeune, Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré, Springfield, Motobecane, John Howard, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin
Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 467 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 279 Times
in
152 Posts
What to do?
Ride it. If you like it enough,you keep it. If not, you sell it so someone else can enjoy it.
Ride it. If you like it enough,you keep it. If not, you sell it so someone else can enjoy it.
Likes For CV-6:
08-09-20, 11:32 PM
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 493
Bikes: 1968 Raleigh Super Course. 1972 Raleigh Professional, 1975 Raleigh International, 1978 Raleigh Professional, 1985 Raleigh Prestige, 1972 Schwinn Paramount, 1980 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8, 1978 Schwinn Varsity, 1976 Peugeot PX10, 1972 Motobecane Le Champ
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Liked 171 Times
in
105 Posts
Congratulations Dylansbob on your beautiful “quandary”! I need problems like this. Hmmm...What to do? What to do?
Last edited by Pcampeau; 08-09-20 at 11:41 PM.
Likes For Pcampeau:
Likes For 3speedslow:
08-10-20, 12:55 PM
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 2,396
Bikes: CURRENT: '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '74 Campania Professional, '83 Mercian KOM Touring, '91 Univega Alpina Comp PAST: '72 Puch Bergmeister, '72ish Peugeot UO-8, '86 Univega Gran Premio, '85 Univega Viva Touring
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 754 Post(s)
Liked 534 Times
in
352 Posts
Quandary? Nope, just ride it. Even if it's for some specific routes and situations (e.g., relatively flat, no off-road), you'll appreciate the kind of joy it brings, even if only once in a while. And if there's no smile, just sell it... Very cool bike, btw...
08-10-20, 04:48 PM
#9
2k miles from the midwest
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,165
Bikes: Cinelli Hobootleg, Falcon San Remo, Benotto 2000 are the top 3 now
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 199 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
145 Posts
Ok, got a plan.
It might not be a good plan, but it's where I'm taking it. I've removed the Mavic goodies to sell off (starfish crank/bb, seatpost, stem, handlebars, brake levers. I'm keeping the headset on the bike). They should cover the purchase price and maybe a few dollars more. The long term plan is to either install a Willow triplizer 46/30 on an 80s 105 crankset or that gearing on a M730 crank after I steal it back from my wife's bike. I never expected to be owning an Italian, so I was relieved to find that I had one 70mm BB. The spindle worked out with this early RF crank that I had already with the right rings. While not the most aesthetically pleasing choice, it is from the right time frame and the look is starting to grow on me. Nitto Noodle handlebars are currently installed, but I may sneak a moustache just to see how it feels. I like Newbaums tape, so I'm going to have to decide black or white tape, with shellac to keep it clean. The cheap white tires will also be replaced. It's great to see that I have adaquate clearance with 28c tires, but not quite enough for 30c. That the frame/fork will hold a 28 is the main reason I decided to keep it.
Likes For Dylansbob:
08-10-20, 04:52 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 18,276
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 156 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5022 Post(s)
Liked 1,538 Times
in
1,011 Posts
Cool bike. I just picked up a Pinarello cross, same paint but nowhere near this level of bling, that I’m rebuilding.
08-11-20, 04:23 AM
#11
Death fork? Naaaah!!
Originally Posted by Dylansbob
It might not be a good plan, but it's where I'm taking it. I've removed the Mavic goodies to sell off (starfish crank/bb, seatpost, stem, handlebars, brake levers. I'm keeping the headset on the bike). They should cover the purchase price and maybe a few dollars more. The long term plan is to either install a Willow triplizer 46/30 on an 80s 105 crankset or that gearing on a M730 crank after I steal it back from my wife's bike.
It took me years to collect all the Mavic bits. But it's your bike; do as you wish and enjoy.
Top
__________________
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
Last edited by top506; 08-11-20 at 04:27 AM.
Likes For top506:
08-11-20, 04:53 AM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 7,754
Bikes: '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '90 De Rosa Professional, '91 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 990 Post(s)
Liked 626 Times
in
395 Posts
Dylansbob Welcome to the club. Definitely a Montello, Top of the line. Come see what we have, Show us your Pinarello
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
08-11-20, 07:29 AM
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 10,643
Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
Mentioned: 183 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1047 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 794 Times
in
487 Posts
The kicker is that I've never really been into the whole Italian thing. I"m more of a Brooks/Riv type of rider, so I'm already in a quandry what to do.
My most recent acquisition was purchased to flip, as one of the above criteria (fit) did not meet my requirements, until I got the bike home. Turned out to be a darn good fit. All of my purchase criteria had been met (the afford it thing somewhat debatable), so this is my new keeper, even though I prefer riding much older steeds...
In addition to all of the above, you can always try the bike, for a while and make any other decisions later (restore, keep original, sell, ect). Who knows what will happen to the my Marinoni? If something exceptional, like the OP's Pinarello, finds its way to my place, who knows what will have to go to conform with the storage space issue. I go through this, every now and again.
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
Likes For randyjawa:
08-11-20, 09:09 AM
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Back-of-beyond, Kootenays, BC
Posts: 699
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Expert Road and Specialized Stump Jumper FS Mountain; De Vinci Caribou touring, Intense Tracer T275c, Surly Moonlander, Cramerotti
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 145 Post(s)
Liked 61 Times
in
39 Posts
Originally Posted by Dylansbob
It might not be a good plan, but it's where I'm taking it. I've removed the Mavic goodies to sell off (starfish crank/bb, seatpost, stem, handlebars, brake levers. I'm keeping the headset on the bike). They should cover the purchase price and maybe a few dollars more. The long term plan is to either install a Willow triplizer 46/30 on an 80s 105 crankset or that gearing on a M730 crank after I steal it back from my wife's bike. I never expected to be owning an Italian, so I was relieved to find that I had one 70mm BB. The spindle worked out with this early RF crank that I had already with the right rings. While not the most aesthetically pleasing choice, it is from the right time frame and the look is starting to grow on me. Nitto Noodle handlebars are currently installed, but I may sneak a moustache just to see how it feels. I like Newbaums tape, so I'm going to have to decide black or white tape, with shellac to keep it clean. The cheap white tires will also be replaced. It's great to see that I have adaquate clearance with 28c tires, but not quite enough for 30c. That the frame/fork will hold a 28 is the main reason I decided to keep it.
Likes For Mountain Mitch:
08-11-20, 09:13 AM
#16
PM me your cotters
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,765
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1072 Post(s)
Liked 465 Times
in
361 Posts
Originally Posted by Mountain Mitch
You’re a brave man! A subsequent owner of the bike will curse you forever.....
__________________
███████████████
███████████████
08-11-20, 09:46 AM
#17
2k miles from the midwest
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,165
Bikes: Cinelli Hobootleg, Falcon San Remo, Benotto 2000 are the top 3 now
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 199 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
145 Posts
Originally Posted by Mountain Mitch
You’re a brave man! A subsequent owner of the bike will curse you forever.....
08-11-20, 10:01 AM
#18
Senior Member
Why choose between white and black? Harlequin wrap all the way! Lean into the flashiness 
Amazing score!
Amazing score!
Likes For eeuuugh:
08-11-20, 10:58 AM
#19
Some Weirdo
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Rexburg, ID
Posts: 496
Bikes: '86 Maruishi Excellence, '86 Schwinn Prelude, '88 Cannondale SR2000, '74 C. Itoh "Racer"
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 220 Post(s)
Liked 135 Times
in
87 Posts
Originally Posted by Dylansbob
You know, it would make a *****in' fixie and I do have a set of yellow deepVs laced up. Of course that FD braze on would have to go.
08-11-20, 11:40 AM
#20
2k miles from the midwest
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,165
Bikes: Cinelli Hobootleg, Falcon San Remo, Benotto 2000 are the top 3 now
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 199 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
145 Posts
~15yrs ago, I remember seeing pics of a Colnago someone put a bannana seat, complete with sissy bar onto.
On the right drugs, I could see a hot red Italian morphed with a muscle bike.
On the right drugs, I could see a hot red Italian morphed with a muscle bike.
08-11-20, 11:42 AM
#21
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Dylansbob
Sooo a 10spd Pinarello bike popped up on FB this evening. More pics coming tomorrow after I've had a chance to clean and look over. My heart is still racing 4hrs later. First pic is as found. I had time to take off the aerobar and move the shifters where they belong and take if for a very short ride tonight. It's my size. The kicker is that I've never really been into the whole Italian thing. I"m more of a Brooks/Riv type of rider, so I'm already in a quandry what to do.
N+1 for the win
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
What happened to it?!
08-11-20, 02:29 PM
#23
2k miles from the midwest
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,165
Bikes: Cinelli Hobootleg, Falcon San Remo, Benotto 2000 are the top 3 now
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 199 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times
in
145 Posts
No. Inherited from a family member and not rode much. PO said he started training for STP, judging by the dust and upgrades, probably been sitting for a few years.
08-11-20, 06:05 PM
#24
Ride.Smile.Repeat
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Seattle WA
Posts: 2,863
Bikes: 2009 Handsome Devil, 1987 Trek 520 Cirrus, 1978 Motobecane Grand Touring, 1987 Nishiki Cresta GT, 1989 Specialized Allez Former bikes; 1986 Miyata Trail Runner, 1979 Miyata 912, 2011 VO Rando, 1999 Cannondale R800, 1986 Schwinn Passage
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 787 Post(s)
Liked 498 Times
in
357 Posts
Originally Posted by Dylansbob
No. Inherited from a family member and not rode much. PO said he started training for STP, judging by the dust and upgrades, probably been sitting for a few years.
08-11-20, 06:59 PM
#25
Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Northern California
Posts: 7,956
Bikes: Cheltenham-Pederson racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1062 Post(s)
Liked 488 Times
in
347 Posts
Congrat's on a great find, those Pinarellos were quite highly regarded in the 80's heyday of Italian steel!!!
I would recommend not to go "riv" on this bike at all. How's the span length from saddle to bars? If it feels at all stretched out, first try moving the saddle forward. Also up a tad (up enough to keep from feeling the rear edge of the saddle).
This accomplishes several things (comfort and handling are involved).
Firstly, your quick-steering bike will retain the critical weight distribution that Pinarello's designers had in mind, which will prevent this bike from losing it's stability at speed (since it doesn't have long chainstays).
Secondly, the forward saddle brings the rider's hands naturally forward and downward without the rider having to bend any sharper at the waist.
The third thing is that the bike will retain it's sprightly, sporting demeanor, such that the rider will find it quicker and easier to spring off of the saddle for brief hill efforts and/or accelerations.
The only two contra-indications have to do with the rider and with the sort of riding that fits with this bike's personality.
First, the rider's forward position somewhat favors more-intense pedaling effort as befitting somewhat shorter, sportier rides. This keeps the rider's arms from bearing too much of the rider's upper-body mass, as the sort of equal and opposite reaction to the torque being delivered to the cranks.
Second, also having to do with trip distance, the rider's neck muscles will have to work harder until/unless the neck muscles adapt.
I sure hope that this isn't rain on your planned parade. I just recommend giving the bike's intended riding style a try before making changes in a perhaps more familiar direction!
By all means, use what you find to be a comfortable saddle, and if that turns out to be a Brooks then so be it.
Enjoy.
I would recommend not to go "riv" on this bike at all. How's the span length from saddle to bars? If it feels at all stretched out, first try moving the saddle forward. Also up a tad (up enough to keep from feeling the rear edge of the saddle).
This accomplishes several things (comfort and handling are involved).
Firstly, your quick-steering bike will retain the critical weight distribution that Pinarello's designers had in mind, which will prevent this bike from losing it's stability at speed (since it doesn't have long chainstays).
Secondly, the forward saddle brings the rider's hands naturally forward and downward without the rider having to bend any sharper at the waist.
The third thing is that the bike will retain it's sprightly, sporting demeanor, such that the rider will find it quicker and easier to spring off of the saddle for brief hill efforts and/or accelerations.
The only two contra-indications have to do with the rider and with the sort of riding that fits with this bike's personality.
First, the rider's forward position somewhat favors more-intense pedaling effort as befitting somewhat shorter, sportier rides. This keeps the rider's arms from bearing too much of the rider's upper-body mass, as the sort of equal and opposite reaction to the torque being delivered to the cranks.
Second, also having to do with trip distance, the rider's neck muscles will have to work harder until/unless the neck muscles adapt.
I sure hope that this isn't rain on your planned parade. I just recommend giving the bike's intended riding style a try before making changes in a perhaps more familiar direction!
By all means, use what you find to be a comfortable saddle, and if that turns out to be a Brooks then so be it.
Enjoy.
