Benotto Frame ID
08-11-20, 09:06 PM
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Benotto Frame ID
Came across this vintage Benotto on offer up. Seller wants $250 and I offered $100. She countered with $150 but im in no rush. I am looking for a bike to tinker around with and possibly convert into a single speed.
08-11-20, 11:04 PM
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Is there any indication to the specific model? If I recall correctly from when I researched Benottos a while ago, the earlier models were made in Italy and of very good quality, while the latter ones were made in Mexico and of considerably worse quality.
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Fork is not original. Seller's price is outrageous. Looks like it has a stuck fixed cup in the BB, too. Keep looking 
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08-12-20, 07:52 AM
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Likelihood is it's a Benotto 800, maybe a Benotto 1000. 1200 or 1500. With the pics shown, who knows. Non-original fork, and it would be nice to see a pic of under the bottom bracket shell just to confirm it has expected cut-outs and stuff. The non-original fork, why is it there? Front-ender bent the original? I'd carefully check the top tube, the downtube and their respective lugs at the head tube to confirm there's no signs of collision damage.
Just to give you perspective, a top-of-the-line Benotto 3000 fully refurbished sold here on BF - where the bike enthusiasts hang out - for just $380, but it was complete and ready to ride.
1981 Benotto 3000, 54x54
And I sold a highly sought-after Benotto 3000 frame and fork with the nice De Rosa-esque diamond chainstays for $100 over here:
80s Benotto 3000 frame & fork (54-55cm)
Honestly, I think your offer was more than fair for what I'm seeing there. That's way overpriced for a Benotto-1500-or-lesser model. I'd point the seller to this thread. I understand them tossing back an offer of $150, your $100 offer must've felt like a massive lowball, but it's actually a high market-fair price at $100 assuming the seat post isn't stuck and there's no signs of frame damage from a wreck. The fact it doesn't have the original fork, I'd be hard-pressed to pay more than $80 for it.
The seller needs to understand it's gonna take at least $300 in parts to rebuild this thing, and there's no way in hell it's selling for $450 ($150 + $300 in parts) once you rebuild it. $80-100 is a fair-fair price for everyone, with me leaning towards $80 due to non-original (and quite ugly) fork. $120-150 is a steal for the seller. $50-60 would be a steal to you.
Just to give you perspective, a top-of-the-line Benotto 3000 fully refurbished sold here on BF - where the bike enthusiasts hang out - for just $380, but it was complete and ready to ride.
1981 Benotto 3000, 54x54
And I sold a highly sought-after Benotto 3000 frame and fork with the nice De Rosa-esque diamond chainstays for $100 over here:
80s Benotto 3000 frame & fork (54-55cm)
Honestly, I think your offer was more than fair for what I'm seeing there. That's way overpriced for a Benotto-1500-or-lesser model. I'd point the seller to this thread. I understand them tossing back an offer of $150, your $100 offer must've felt like a massive lowball, but it's actually a high market-fair price at $100 assuming the seat post isn't stuck and there's no signs of frame damage from a wreck. The fact it doesn't have the original fork, I'd be hard-pressed to pay more than $80 for it.
The seller needs to understand it's gonna take at least $300 in parts to rebuild this thing, and there's no way in hell it's selling for $450 ($150 + $300 in parts) once you rebuild it. $80-100 is a fair-fair price for everyone, with me leaning towards $80 due to non-original (and quite ugly) fork. $120-150 is a steal for the seller. $50-60 would be a steal to you.
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08-12-20, 08:31 AM
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It's likely a Benotto 850. The sticker on the down tube looks like a Columbus Zeta which made up into nice bikes. However, the price was way too high for a bike with a missing OEM fork and other issues.
08-12-20, 08:46 AM
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Good call on the Zeta sticker. My near vision finally went to hell last year, and abruptly, which I've always skeptically heard it would happen in one's 40s/50s. I need reading glasses to see small details anymore.
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08-12-20, 12:01 PM
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Likelihood is it's a Benotto 800, maybe a Benotto 1000. 1200 or 1500. With the pics shown, who knows. Non-original fork, and it would be nice to see a pic of under the bottom bracket shell just to confirm it has expected cut-outs and stuff. The non-original fork, why is it there? Front-ender bent the original? I'd carefully check the top tube, the downtube and their respective lugs at the head tube to confirm there's no signs of collision damage.
Just to give you perspective, a top-of-the-line Benotto 3000 fully refurbished sold here on BF - where the bike enthusiasts hang out - for just $380, but it was complete and ready to ride.
1981 Benotto 3000, 54x54
And I sold a highly sought-after Benotto 3000 frame and fork with the nice De Rosa-esque diamond chainstays for $100 over here:
80s Benotto 3000 frame & fork (54-55cm)
Honestly, I think your offer was more than fair for what I'm seeing there. That's way overpriced for a Benotto-1500-or-lesser model. I'd point the seller to this thread. I understand them tossing back an offer of $150, your $100 offer must've felt like a massive lowball, but it's actually a high market-fair price at $100 assuming the seat post isn't stuck and there's no signs of frame damage from a wreck. The fact it doesn't have the original fork, I'd be hard-pressed to pay more than $80 for it.
The seller needs to understand it's gonna take at least $300 in parts to rebuild this thing, and there's no way in hell it's selling for $450 ($150 + $300 in parts) once you rebuild it. $80-100 is a fair-fair price for everyone, with me leaning towards $80 due to non-original (and quite ugly) fork. $120-150 is a steal for the seller. $50-60 would be a steal to you.
Just to give you perspective, a top-of-the-line Benotto 3000 fully refurbished sold here on BF - where the bike enthusiasts hang out - for just $380, but it was complete and ready to ride.
1981 Benotto 3000, 54x54
And I sold a highly sought-after Benotto 3000 frame and fork with the nice De Rosa-esque diamond chainstays for $100 over here:
80s Benotto 3000 frame & fork (54-55cm)
Honestly, I think your offer was more than fair for what I'm seeing there. That's way overpriced for a Benotto-1500-or-lesser model. I'd point the seller to this thread. I understand them tossing back an offer of $150, your $100 offer must've felt like a massive lowball, but it's actually a high market-fair price at $100 assuming the seat post isn't stuck and there's no signs of frame damage from a wreck. The fact it doesn't have the original fork, I'd be hard-pressed to pay more than $80 for it.
The seller needs to understand it's gonna take at least $300 in parts to rebuild this thing, and there's no way in hell it's selling for $450 ($150 + $300 in parts) once you rebuild it. $80-100 is a fair-fair price for everyone, with me leaning towards $80 due to non-original (and quite ugly) fork. $120-150 is a steal for the seller. $50-60 would be a steal to you.
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