Help in ID: Colnago or Fauxnago?
08-15-20, 08:27 PM
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Help in ID: Colnago or Fauxnago?
hi i need help in id or knowing if the bike is colnago or in any way linked to colnago or what bike is it The clover stamp can only be found on the lugs on the headtube going to the downtube. Nowhere else. There is a clover cutout on the bb shell but it also has tiny dots or holes forming a triangle maybe as the stem of the clover cutout? I cant upload any image since im still a new member. Sorry.
Id appreciate any insigjt ir help please, thank you
Id appreciate any insigjt ir help please, thank you
08-16-20, 06:46 AM
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You will need 10 posts to enable posting of pictures. It looks like you only need 6 more so you are on the way. I'd like to see the pictures.
08-17-20, 04:21 AM
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Here are your images...
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...yes, those image links work. It does not look like any Colnago I've ever seen from the 70's or 80's. The fork crown looks like what shows up on a lot of French bikes. Otherwise, I can't help much.
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...yes, those image links work. It does not look like any Colnago I've ever seen from the 70's or 80's. The fork crown looks like what shows up on a lot of French bikes. Otherwise, I can't help much.
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08-17-20, 09:01 AM
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Not a Colnago.
I owned a bike with an inverse "clover" not that brand either.
On the bottom bracket cups will be most often a thread type stamp. Report that and the seat post size if can be found.
Fork looks earlier, then drilled to accept the recessed nut.
Always a chance the fork and the frame were mated long after the two were built.
I owned a bike with an inverse "clover" not that brand either.
On the bottom bracket cups will be most often a thread type stamp. Report that and the seat post size if can be found.
Fork looks earlier, then drilled to accept the recessed nut.
Always a chance the fork and the frame were mated long after the two were built.
08-17-20, 03:25 PM
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Fauxnago for sure!
The "clover" under the BB looks to have been done by some guy named Duffus Schmaltz.........in a van.....by the river.......next to the highschool........
The "clover" under the BB looks to have been done by some guy named Duffus Schmaltz.........in a van.....by the river.......next to the highschool........
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Nope, not a Colnago. Clues to identity may be hinted at by stampings on dropouts and BB shell dimensions and threadings. Seat post diameter may help, too.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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08-21-20, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Fauxnago for sure!
The "clover" under the BB looks to have been done by some guy named Duffus Schmaltz.........in a van.....by the river.......next to the highschool........
The "clover" under the BB looks to have been done by some guy named Duffus Schmaltz.........in a van.....by the river.......next to the highschool........
08-21-20, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage
Not a Colnago.
I owned a bike with an inverse "clover" not that brand either.
On the bottom bracket cups will be most often a thread type stamp. Report that and the seat post size if can be found.
Fork looks earlier, then drilled to accept the recessed nut.
Always a chance the fork and the frame were mated long after the two were built.
I owned a bike with an inverse "clover" not that brand either.
On the bottom bracket cups will be most often a thread type stamp. Report that and the seat post size if can be found.
Fork looks earlier, then drilled to accept the recessed nut.
Always a chance the fork and the frame were mated long after the two were built.
08-21-20, 10:36 PM
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there has been some lug thinning, i can't tell if it's haphazard or consistent, probably due to the mess of paint. I particularly can't figure out what was done on the lower head tube lug. Maybe a frame-building class bike. Better photo of that lug cut out might help;
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08-22-20, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Last ride 76
there has been some lug thinning, i can't tell if it's haphazard or consistent, probably due to the mess of paint. I particularly can't figure out what was done on the lower head tube lug. Maybe a frame-building class bike. Better photo of that lug cut out might help;
Seems like the tail of the clover is atrached to the clover
This bb shell is the biggest mystery to me
Here are some more pics 😊
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Thoughts on your frame.
Originally Posted by NormanB
Seems like the tail of the clover is atrached to the clover
This bb shell is the biggest mystery to me
Here are some more pics 😊
It would explain the bottom bracket, and lug details. The builder was referencing a Colnago, not trying to truly make a "fake". I hope you are not disappointed, by my guess, I think you have something pretty unique on your hands. There may even be a way to trace it back to the builder. Take a look at my recent track bike thread regarding who may have built it. Someone may remember the guy who loved bikes.
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08-23-20, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Last ride 76
Norman, I just noticed that you are in Manila. (I can be somewhat slow at times.) Mostly locations don't affect things much. This time, I am going to venture it does. I said before I thought it looked possibly like "student" work. Now I'm going to guess, local enthusiast. Bet almost anything. The small size of the frame forces the head lugs to intersect. I have read professional frame builders, noting how difficult it is to make that conjunction smoothly, there are so many factors at play. The Philippines in general, and Manila specifically, has a very active and inventive welding industry, from Jeepneys to commercial and domestic custom fabrication, there is an abundance of skilled artisans who work with metal. I think this frame was the work of one such.
It would explain the bottom bracket, and lug details. The builder was referencing a Colnago, not trying to truly make a "fake". I hope you are not disappointed, by my guess, I think you have something pretty unique on your hands. There may even be a way to trace it back to the builder. Take a look at my recent track bike thread regarding who may have built it. Someone may remember the guy who loved bikes.
Best regards, Eric
It would explain the bottom bracket, and lug details. The builder was referencing a Colnago, not trying to truly make a "fake". I hope you are not disappointed, by my guess, I think you have something pretty unique on your hands. There may even be a way to trace it back to the builder. Take a look at my recent track bike thread regarding who may have built it. Someone may remember the guy who loved bikes.
Best regards, Eric
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