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Old 08-22-20, 11:42 AM
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80s Peugeot Restoration

Hi guys. I am new to the forum, so hello to all those out there.
As the title suggests, I am about to start to try and restore my old Peugeot Carbolite 103 road bike bought from new from Brian Roarkes in Stoke. I has been lying around various houses covered in dust and in need of tlc. So now is the time I thought I would give it some. The old chrome wheels have seen better days and one is a bit buckled, so sourcing a new set is first on my mission. Hopefully, some form of alloy replacements are obtainable.
I am new to bike bit in general, but can wield spanners etc, so putting things together wont be an issue.
The marking on my current rear wheel are Van Schotthort 18 x 622 (28 x 1 5/8) I measured the axle on the wheel and it seems to be around 130 mm with the 5 gear cassette at 30 mm deep.
I realise that the sensible thing to do would be just get another one, but is has a sentimental attachment for me, so would like to do it some service.
If anyone has any information or guidance in this regard, I would be most appreciative.
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Old 08-22-20, 06:14 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Sean.
Perhaps you could give us more specific idea of your goals for the replacement wheel... As close as possible to original, period correct, best bang for the buck or?...
What type of riding do you plan to do?, leisure, around town, long distance sport riding, touring?
Are you willing to dismantle the wheels and reuse the hubs to build up new wheels using a set of replacement rims? Or do you prefer ready to go already built wheels?
We know you can't post photos yet (although there are work-arounds), but if you could provide more details on your bike, like a hint to a webpage, or just whatever you know for sure (e.g. year, model), that would help.
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Old 08-23-20, 01:34 AM
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Thanks for the reply, Geoff. I seem to remember many hours spent cleaning chrome wheels back in the day, so an alloy option would be preferable, although it would be leisure riding I would be doing, so chrome would not be out of the question. (could be a cost equation). I live near Cannock Chase, so in addition to the mtb trails there are also some nice roads to ride.
I had never considered the option of building up new wheels, not really knowing much about them. Probably ready built would be best.
I would like to keep the bike original in essence, but replace with better components if available. The original derailleurs are simplex, so I assume there would be an option to upgrade, but this would depend on fittings, I guess.
As you can see, it's all a bit new. I am used to fiddling with my Land Rover and Mini.
The closest photo I can find is this one.It is perhaps a bit older than mine. The numbers underneath the bottom crank seem to read. Y50 18916 (maybe a 3 not 8) If that means anything.
It's an eBay advert entitled

Peugeot 1979 Carbolite 103 Bike Road Retro Original Bicycle Tube

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Old 08-23-20, 06:48 AM
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I strongly recommend upgrading to alloy rims for improved braking and an enhanced riding experience. Pre-built wheels -- new or used -- are pretty widely available. Re-check the frame's rear triangle spread, because 130mm, though common on modern bikes with 9- or 10-speed freewheels, sounds high for a bike of that vintage, particularly with a 5-speed block. I would have expected either 120 or 126mm. This will slightly impact your choice of a new rear wheel, but a steel frame is pretty easy to cold-set by a few mm, as needed.
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Old 08-23-20, 09:42 AM
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Thanks John. You are quite right. I measured the gap with a steel rule rather than a wobbly tape and it does seem to be 126 mm on a 5 speed hub. I have a watch on a Shimano chain set including brakes but not sure if they will fit and the same chap has a set of Mavic wheels which are alloys. i assume if i give him the size and he measures the hub, that's all I need to know. Mavic any good. I watched a Peugeot resto video and he put the 600 chain set on so presumably these are quite good.
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Sean65 you can post pictures to the gallery as a workaround to the 10 post thing and then we can see your vintage Pug. Welcome to Bike Forums.
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Old 08-24-20, 02:30 AM
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Thanks I will.
Those Mavic wheels I mentioned are Module E Mavic whatever that means. I also noticed the gear levers on the 600 set have a collar around the diagonal frame whereas mine bolt to the frame. I am not averse to getting second hand stuff if the quality is inherently better.
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Right the photos are on the gallery. I should have taken more before I dismantled it. Do I need to share my album for you to see it?
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Old 08-24-20, 09:47 AM
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Oh good. Thoughts about my ideas already, i.e. the Mavics and maybe the Shimano chain set, or are there better options?
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Sean65 -

I did a resto of an 80s Peugeot PB 12 here but it differs somewhat from yours. There are some good tips though, which may be helpful.
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Thank you I shall take a look. I am not even sure what model mine is. I know whatever I do will probably be more than the cost of a better new one but hey. I have had it nearly 40 years.
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The Weinmann 500's should be replaced as well. They're just adequate, at best.
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The Shimano 600 set I am looking at has the derailleurs, front and back. Brakes and brake levers and front crank. My issue is will it all mount correctly? I have already seen that the gear levers are located by a ring on the frame whereas on my frame there is a captive lug that they bolt to. I suppose i would mount the 600s higher.
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Simple question for those who know. Are my gears friction or indexed I am looking at some Mavis which are the right size but with a 6 spd cassette whereas my existing one is 5. I don't want to spend over £100 on the off chance.
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If your shifters don't click when shifting you have friction - like tuning an old radio by feel rather than using presets. And most likely your rear gears are a Freewheel not a cassette (see Sheldon Brown for the difference) The shimano 600 stuff should work but keep all the original stuff just in case. By about 1983 iirc the French stuff had standardized on sizing so you mostly likely won't have to deal with the funky french sizing challenges of the 70s bikes. This site might help you ID the frame model and year. Finally RJ the bike guy on
has many good vintage bike videos you might find helpful. Good luck and have fun with it. And post lots of pictures.
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Simple question for those who know. Are my gears friction or indexed I am looking at some Mavis which are the right size but with a 6 spd cassette whereas my existing one is 5. I don't want to spend over £100 on the off chance.
Yes, Mavics are fine rims and have been around a Long time, of course this is dependent on the quality of the build, wheels trued and tuned? Hubs properly greased and running smooth? Freewheel cogs in good condition? I would suggest getting it rideable and then evaluating components as you go. Before dumping a lot of money on new(er) components that may or not be required. From picture you crank appears useable, keep in mind different cranks may require different bottom brackets or spindle lengths. I.E. 600 EX crank wants a 116mm BB spindle, Solida crank on my Peugeot PH-10LS carbolite framed bike wants a 121mm spindle. YMMV! Good luck and go slow.
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Thanks for all the very helpful comments I suppose I should have suspected that there were going to be infinite varieties of size and fitment.
crank does seem ok but if I can get the one that goes with the 600 stuff then i will. But the suggestion is it may not fit. Hmmm! Itís a bit of s mind field isnít it.

I have added a photo of the wheels I am getting into the gallery

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Just wanted to check. I have removed half of the bottom bracket. The left handed thread side. Am i right in thinking the other side is a reverse thread. It has a very narrow flange on which to get a spanner?
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