72 Paramount - what's original?
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72 Paramount - what's original?
Thanks all you good folks for starting me down the right path, with some catalog ref's and links...still just guessing that this was not a special order bike, just one on the tall side. Model #??
Here's my very non-expert try at describing everything on the bike - any tips on what's not original and what I should look for to replace the missing parts (front brake hangar, need new brake levers)?? I haven't figured out how to post pix yet, but I have 'em if it's a help.
TT 59.5 cm (all dimensions ctr to ctr)
DT 64.5 cm
ST 62 cm
HT 15 cm
73 degree HT/fork rake (best I can tell w my protractor and straightedge)
Chrome HT detailed lugs; detailed seat lug not chrome
6” chrome tips seat, chain stays, forks
Seat stays cut at angle, brazed to side of seat lug
Fork crown chrome
Fork rake (fork centerline to hub center) 1.5”
Campy rear and front dropouts, no eyelets
Campy BB
Campy HT/fork bearing set
No braze-ons except rear derailleur cable stop; everything clamp-on
paint a bit checked at top of down tube on bottom side, also top back of seat tube (road grunge?)
Campy 170mm crankset, 5 spoke
Campy 42/52 chainrings
Campy pedals, Christophe Special clips, need 1 leather strap
Campy Nuovo Record rear derailleur
Campy (model?) front derailleur
Cinelli stem, drop bars w chrome bar plugs
Campy seatpost
Sella Italia Anatomic saddle (non-original?)
Campy brake cable housing clamps (3) on TT
Campy BB cable guide
Campy shift levers on DT
Unlabelled chrome rear brake hangar
Missing front brake hangar – need one
Schwinn Approved Type LC 2.3 centerpull rear and front brakes
Schwinn Approved (also labelled Weinmann) brake levers w extensions – need to replace
Campy upper pump bracket on ST
Campy Record wide flange hubs, Campy skewers
Super Champion “Competition” rims (original?)
Specialized Touring 27 x 1-1/4 gumwall clinchers (not original?)
Chrome spokes, thicker in outer 1”
2 nail pullers mounted at brakes (1 badly worn, need one)
Suntour 5 sp freewheel 14-26 (not original?)
Sedis Sachs chain (original? not original?)
Schwinn Paramount HT badge
Schwinn Paramount DT decal each side (kind of yellowed)
Schwinn cross logo and Olympic decal on ST
Reynolds 531 dbl butted tubes, forks, stays decal on ST
More than anyone wanted to know, but your expertise is MUCH appreciated!
Reid
Here's my very non-expert try at describing everything on the bike - any tips on what's not original and what I should look for to replace the missing parts (front brake hangar, need new brake levers)?? I haven't figured out how to post pix yet, but I have 'em if it's a help.
TT 59.5 cm (all dimensions ctr to ctr)
DT 64.5 cm
ST 62 cm
HT 15 cm
73 degree HT/fork rake (best I can tell w my protractor and straightedge)
Chrome HT detailed lugs; detailed seat lug not chrome
6” chrome tips seat, chain stays, forks
Seat stays cut at angle, brazed to side of seat lug
Fork crown chrome
Fork rake (fork centerline to hub center) 1.5”
Campy rear and front dropouts, no eyelets
Campy BB
Campy HT/fork bearing set
No braze-ons except rear derailleur cable stop; everything clamp-on
paint a bit checked at top of down tube on bottom side, also top back of seat tube (road grunge?)
Campy 170mm crankset, 5 spoke
Campy 42/52 chainrings
Campy pedals, Christophe Special clips, need 1 leather strap
Campy Nuovo Record rear derailleur
Campy (model?) front derailleur
Cinelli stem, drop bars w chrome bar plugs
Campy seatpost
Sella Italia Anatomic saddle (non-original?)
Campy brake cable housing clamps (3) on TT
Campy BB cable guide
Campy shift levers on DT
Unlabelled chrome rear brake hangar
Missing front brake hangar – need one
Schwinn Approved Type LC 2.3 centerpull rear and front brakes
Schwinn Approved (also labelled Weinmann) brake levers w extensions – need to replace
Campy upper pump bracket on ST
Campy Record wide flange hubs, Campy skewers
Super Champion “Competition” rims (original?)
Specialized Touring 27 x 1-1/4 gumwall clinchers (not original?)
Chrome spokes, thicker in outer 1”
2 nail pullers mounted at brakes (1 badly worn, need one)
Suntour 5 sp freewheel 14-26 (not original?)
Sedis Sachs chain (original? not original?)
Schwinn Paramount HT badge
Schwinn Paramount DT decal each side (kind of yellowed)
Schwinn cross logo and Olympic decal on ST
Reynolds 531 dbl butted tubes, forks, stays decal on ST
More than anyone wanted to know, but your expertise is MUCH appreciated!
Reid
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seems I remember Paramounts as being 'all' Campy, and only with sewups, but then thats from seeing them around at races - never owned one. so what do I know...
If you;re really intent on knowing what the true 'showroom' config was, then I have a suggestion...
discreetly find a way to 'ping' Joe Saling - you might find his info on the somerset wheelmen site. Joe might prove to be a unlimited source of paramount info.
Joe was (might still be) a racer of quite some renown, rode Paramounts almost exclusively way back when (don't believe I ever saw him on anything else) prolly cause he was the owner of the Schwinn Dealership in Flemington NJ area for 'centuries'. Additionally he is an awfully nice guy.
If anyone has 'Paramount' imprinted in his brain, it would be him. Likely he could recite entire model lines of schwinns from way back.
Having moved out here to the left coast back in the 80s, I've lost touch with most of the eastern goings-on, but I expect that if he is around, he's still in the middle of cycling.
Good luck - you're a lucky guy to have a Paramount. It was second to none, I always thought it had some of the nicest lugwork ever put on a bike, custom or other. I do remember that each one was 'hand-built' by one or 2 master framebuilders at schwinn who were only responsible for paramounts.
Truly the top level of 'classic' bikes.
'nailpullers'? do you mean tire-savers? if so, you can 'rebuild' them by using a spoke and bending the wire to match to the 'worn' wire...
I still use them... boy am I an olde pharte
If you;re really intent on knowing what the true 'showroom' config was, then I have a suggestion...
discreetly find a way to 'ping' Joe Saling - you might find his info on the somerset wheelmen site. Joe might prove to be a unlimited source of paramount info.
Joe was (might still be) a racer of quite some renown, rode Paramounts almost exclusively way back when (don't believe I ever saw him on anything else) prolly cause he was the owner of the Schwinn Dealership in Flemington NJ area for 'centuries'. Additionally he is an awfully nice guy.
If anyone has 'Paramount' imprinted in his brain, it would be him. Likely he could recite entire model lines of schwinns from way back.
Having moved out here to the left coast back in the 80s, I've lost touch with most of the eastern goings-on, but I expect that if he is around, he's still in the middle of cycling.
Good luck - you're a lucky guy to have a Paramount. It was second to none, I always thought it had some of the nicest lugwork ever put on a bike, custom or other. I do remember that each one was 'hand-built' by one or 2 master framebuilders at schwinn who were only responsible for paramounts.
Truly the top level of 'classic' bikes.
'nailpullers'? do you mean tire-savers? if so, you can 'rebuild' them by using a spoke and bending the wire to match to the 'worn' wire...
I still use them... boy am I an olde pharte
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There is an awful lot of information about Paramounts on
Classic Rendezvous List ( https://www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous )
I'd suggest the digest form unless you like copious quantities of e-mail.
You can also get deluged with information on the paramount (and there was
recent discussion about what was "standard" ) from the CR archives
( https://search.bikelist.org/ ).
I seem to recall that Weinman brakes were standard, the Campy brakes
being more expensive were an upgrade option. Not sure on the clinchers but
that would be a logical change made by the owner, the rims and hubs
were top o' the line in their day so they are not out of place on that bike.
Marty
Classic Rendezvous List ( https://www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous )
I'd suggest the digest form unless you like copious quantities of e-mail.
You can also get deluged with information on the paramount (and there was
recent discussion about what was "standard" ) from the CR archives
( https://search.bikelist.org/ ).
I seem to recall that Weinman brakes were standard, the Campy brakes
being more expensive were an upgrade option. Not sure on the clinchers but
that would be a logical change made by the owner, the rims and hubs
were top o' the line in their day so they are not out of place on that bike.
Marty
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