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Old 08-30-20, 01:09 PM
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Talk to me about the Schwinn Super Sport

I've been wanting an old fillet brazed Schwinn for a while to use as a lock up commuter bike. There is a super sport available locally that I can pick up and I had a few questions:

(1) Did they come in red? I can't find red in the catalogs but this one is red. So is this one on the interwebs: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ycle-485767280

(2) How much clearance does this bike have if I run 700c wheels? Can I fit a 35c and fenders?

(3) Is the supersport just a chrome moly main triangle and hi tensile steel fork and rear triangle?

(4) Are there any odd Schwinn measurements on the parts I should be aware of. I know it takes an ashtabula one piece crank (which I'll likely leave on the bike) but is the seatpost and stem odd sized? Are there replacements available if they are odd sized?

My knowledge of these bikes is next to nil so any help is appreciated.
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I believe they did take the 21.1 size stem. Can't remember the seatpost size. I have a couple 21.1 stems here that came off of Schwinns if you find yourself in need. One is GB made with an "S" logo where the usual GB is.
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I had a baby blue Schwinn Super Sport that I used as a commuter. Wheels were 27 x 1 1/4 and there was plenty of clearance for mudguards. I enjoyed riding that bike and I never worried about locking it up - it looks just like a Varsity or Continental at first glance and, since the drivetrain is the same, it is unlikely to get stolen for its components.

But even though the frame (at least the three main tubes, I don't know about the others) is chrome-moly, don't kid yourself, this is not a lightweight bicycle.

Sorry about the poor quality of the photo, it's a scan of a small print from the days of Kodachrome.


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I had a baby blue Schwinn Super Sport that I used as a commuter. Wheels were 27 x 1 1/4 and there was plenty of clearance for mudguards. I enjoyed riding that bike and I never worried about locking it up - it looks just like a Varsity or Continental at first glance and, since the drivetrain is the same, it is unlikely to get stolen for its components.

But even though the frame (at least the three main tubes, I don't know about the others) is chrome-moly, don't kid yourself, this is not a lightweight bicycle.

Sorry about the poor quality of the photo, it's a scan of a small print from the days of Kodachrome.


no i figured it is a heavy bike. Like a lot of old schwinns, it is built to survive thevzombie apocalypse. Yeah this is what I have in mind
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Old 08-30-20, 01:46 PM
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Not a lot of extra clearance over the 1 1/4 which measure at 32. 35s probably but need to watch centering. I believe seatpost is listed at 26.8. I tried an aluminum one in mine and it didn’t go, but I didn’t try too hard, should be close.
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Lots of posts here on BF I believe.
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I had a '73 Sports Tourer, essentially the same as the Super Sport except a regular BSA bottom bracket instead of American, and Huret integral droputs instead of stamped.
700x35 is the widest I would go. Might work with fenders, as you have some wiggle room with the horizontal dropouts. I had 38s on mine without fenders, which was fine on the front, but very tight in the rear. Plus they were on narrow Wolber Alpine rims so inflated they were around 36mm anyway. I sold it before I could try 650b, but a 650b conversion would be quite difficult as 700C already required long reach centerpulls to reach the rims, especially in the back.
Schwinn was pretty vague about the tubing. If you took their description at face value, the frame and fork are all plain gauge chromoly. I suspect the fork blades are not chromoly but not sure.

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Some other pertinent specs:

Seat tube is 29.6mm outer diameter. They came OEM with a proprietary Huret FD clamp and proprietary steel seat collar with 29.6mm ID. I had good luck sanding out a Suntour 28.6 FD clamp to fit on the seat tube, but not with replacing the seat collar. A 30.0 Phil seat collar was too loose. The chromed steel one it comes with works fine though. The seatpost size is 26.8mm- luckily lots of those around because this was a standard size for lightweights in Japan and France for many decades.

Head tube/steerer/headset is "OPC" or old school BMX sized. Meaning steerer ID is 21.1mm and the headset cups need to be 32.6mm OD. Even though the ID of the steerer is odd, the OD is the standard 25.4mm, which means a regular ISO headset locknut and 26.4 crown race will work fine.

What else...the fender eyelets are usually unthreaded from the factory. On the Sports Tourer the dropouts are Huret with integrated hanger, so you'll need an adapter stop washer to use a non-Huret RD. On the Super Sport, the dropouts are stamped with no hanger, so any claw RD will work.

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The sticker just says chromoly. I don't know if the idea of mixing tubing to save a few bucks or differentiate twelve functionally identical bikes in a lineup goes back all the way to the very early 70s when these frames were made. Until the Japanese bikes arrived in the lineup there just weren't very many "lightweight" models. There was the SS, and a slightly better version, and Paramount. Anyhow it's all certainly a big step up from the EF frames that were entirely stamped, rolled, seamed, welded from giant rolls of 1010 sheet metal and had a SOLID steel fork.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Anyhow it's all certainly a big step up from the EF frames that were entirely stamped, rolled, seamed, welded from giant rolls of 1010 sheet metal and had a SOLID steel fork.
Continentals and their ilk had tubular steel fork blades
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And most importantly, different frame angles. Steeper than continental/varsity. I’ve seen posts that say 72-73. They do handle nicely.
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Get a blue one, Two more today from the co-op

My original I have posted about before; a 73 purchased in 1975. I also have a large framed 72 purchased in about 1980 that came back to me perhaps 15 years ago. Too big for me or my son. So, for my son, I found 2 at the co-op. Both have 73 on hubs. Both perhaps cleaner than mine. Should be an easy winter project to get one good one.



Both medium sized.

Left one cleaner.

Missing seat and post and front wheel not stock. Stock RD to use to put big one back stock. Paid $18.

Missing RD and not quite as clean as the other. Paid $10.


Will put one for son mostly stock. but set it up as a vintage rider for him. Large bike will be put back dead stock and be offered for sale.



My bike in back and cleaner project one for son.

Very clean large one in front with the very nice clean Brooks B15. Needs a good cleaning to shine.

Family photo with new members.


This should keep me busy this winter. I knew the large bike was big for my son, even thou he is almost 6'. I am glad to find the other 2 and will have a spare frame and parts. Super Sports are a nice ride, including the turkey levers. I did a solo circle Ohio ride to visit a college buddy in southern Ohio in about 1980.



Last day of ride at East Harbor State Park in Pt Clinton Ohio.

Those were simpler times, just like the Super Sport. It does live up to the memories actually though. Happy hunting.
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I always thought these would make an excellent platform for an IGH conversion, with either drop bars or upright.
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Oh, and 126mm rear spacing, so can take a compact 6 speed freewheel.
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In 1975 I bought a new Super Sport. The color was labeled as Opaque Red. Used it for touring, and it was very good for touring. Tried racing it, but the bike was not up to the job. Makes a really good commuter/tourer. The main tubes were cro-mo as explained to me at the time, but the rest of it was standard high carbon steel. Doesn't matter as the bike was closer to 30 pounds than 20, and the ride is exceptionally comfortable.
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Darth, as Ten Grain mentioned the CONTINENTAL and also the SCHWINN SUBURBANS (ten & five speeds & I think the '70-'71 issue 3 speeds...) have the TUBULAR FRONT FORK. Varsity & Collegiates etc have the forged Ashtabula blade front fork. (the three speed SUBURBAN was eliminated after 1971)

From 1971 Schwinn OWNER'S MANUAL for Lightweight bicycles:
Okay the SUPER SPORT has the same FREEWHEEL gearing as the FIVE SPEED COLLEGIATE of 1970 and later, and the gearing of the FIVE SPEED SUBURBAN.
32-26-21-17-14 .........the front cranks are 39 and 52

(the CONTINENTAL, the Varsity, and the TEN SPEED SUBURBAN all have the Model F freewheel which has 28-24-20-16-14..........with the front cranks at 39 and 52)


Now the 1971 SPORTS TOURER which landed just below the PARAMOUNT in Schwinn's lightweight lineup at that time HAD THE WIDEST GEAR RANGE!
'71 Sports Tourer: 34-28-22-17-14 ......with front cranks of 36 and 54

Just for the heck of it, the 1971 PARAMOUNT figures 24-21-18-16-14 .....with the front cranks of 49 and 52


The waterford site hosts the year by year SCHWINN CATALOGS from 1960 to 1980 broken into two separate segments (1960-1970) and (1971 -1980).
If you simply pick any particular year........and GOOGLE that, for example GOOGLE: Schwinn Catalog 1971 (and then CLICK on the listing that shows up as being specifically from WATERFORD website.....) You will have to use the keys to fast move forward or backward, or the other keys there to go page by page.

There is another somewhat useful compilation that someone else compiled which is organized like a simple flip chart might be done for car salesman with some basic info and color offerings, etc...........this resource is in parts so GOOGLE: 1971-1974 Schwinn Lightweight Data Book, or GOOGLE:1975-1979 Schwinn Lightweight Data Book.


As someone mentioned earlier, the (S) marked alloy stem that is the rebadged GB part is found on SEVENTIES era Schwinn Continentals.
Schwinn engineering decided that for increased SAFETY and STRENGTH to increase the THICKNESS of the HEAD TUBE in all Schwinns for 1966.
THIS IS WHY THAT 1966 and later SCHWINN BICYCLES HAVE THE NARROWER DIAMETER STEM SIZE!!
1965 and earlier SCHWINN which was common to many others in the bike industry at that time DOES NOT INTERCHANGE WITH 1966 and later SCHWINN.
That is something to remember if collecting ancient Schwinns.
THE REASON THAT I SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED ALLOY STEMS IS THAT THERE IS ANOTHER COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOKING ALLOY STEM THAT WAS SEEN ON SOME LATE SIXTIES SCHWINNS, AND THIS HAS THE VISUAL APPEARANCE OF THE "DEATH STEM". IT WAS FACTORY EQUIPMENT ON A MARCH 1968 COLLEGIATE THAT I RE-DID AND GAVE TO MY NEIGHBOR. I replaced it with the ordinary chromed steel Schwinn stem as I am not a fan of that sixties era "death stem". Some sixties era ('66 to '68 or '69 or so) Collegiates, Varsities, and Super Sports had these........maybe most often the De-Luxe versions of the Collegiates/Varsities and probably standard on Super Sport.............The 1968 Collegiate with it was just a regular Collegiate and that is how it came new from the Schwinn dealer in 1968................the Deluxe thing was just a DECAL with the extra word Deluxe and often it was just the same bicycle with headlight and generator and a two tone seat or maybe nicer pedals. They dropped the deluxe labelling thing by the late sixties.
IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE (S) marked rebadged GB alloy stem of the SEVENTIES is the alloy SCHWINN stem that you want.
It is not too difficult to locate other good quality alloy stems in that Narrower diameter size BECAUSE MANY OF THE JAPANESE MANUFACTURERS, INCLUDING PANASONIC featured this schwinn'66 onward stem sizing DURING THE SEVENTIES when they were supplying excellent bikes from Japan to Schwinn from about 1973 on with WORLD VOYAGEUR and LE TOUR.
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Although there are other 21.1mm/.833" stems that were available, it is my opinion that the alloy GB-manufactured, Schwinn-branded stem that was OEM on the 70s Super Sports and Sports Tourers is one of the nicest that was made in that quill diameter. Pretty light compared to most others.
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Here is a beautiful 1971 burgandy red and a beautiful orange 1973 .........SCHWINN SUPER SPORT and related useful info
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/sc...rgandy.175751/
Need Super Sport derailleur or just a part.
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Opaque Red was a Super Sport color option for 1974 that for some reason didn't get listed in the catalog.
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Originally Posted by BFisher View Post
I always thought these would make an excellent platform for an IGH conversion, with either drop bars or upright.
They do, 71 Sports Tourer, pretty much same frame. Have 32s on it, could probably get 35s on there, but that’s about it.
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Somewhere out there is a 71 schwinn super sport

That is all chrome In 1971 I took my super sport to a local chrome shop and for $25 got it chromed and polished I sold it for half the cost of a TI Sr 50 if a live itís in either Colorado or northern CA
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At least in 1969, and probably earlier models, the dropouts were forged, not stamped, with an integral derailleur hanger and an all chrome fork. Also, something to keep in mind, the frame size as specified by Schwinn, is from center of bottom bracket to the top of the seat tube. The actual measurement to the top of top tube is approximately 1" less. So a 24" frame measures about 23" center of bottom bracket to top of seat tube.
Correction: Actually, going outside to look at it, the fork dropouts appear to be stamped, or not forged anyway. The rear do appear to be forged.

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Mine was a very deep metallic brown and the filet brazing was impeccable. Note, the forged dropouts were French Huret Alvit. This meant that you had to engineer a conversion washer to use any Japanese RD.
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...the one I have here has a lot of room for fenders. I did the conversion to a three piece crank, which is not difficult and does save some weight.
Otherwise, not much more I can add. I think this might be my fastest bike going downhill.

Someone before me had already sawed off the hanger, so I didn't have to agonize about using a claw and Suntour.
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...oh yeah, the dropout adjuster screws on mine were a standard threading, not metric as you might assume.
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