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Old 09-03-20, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
This bike looks like when you sit on it, you're probably in violation of the decency code 38 states.
I think the idea is that the frame looks like a Greyhound or fast four-legged animal. But yes, it borders on creepy.

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Originally Posted by m_sasso View Post
I will tell you what is going on, and mention your ignorance of bicycle racing. The noise is set up purposely with disc brakes too allow other riders in the peloton to know when someone is braking without having to verbally communicate their actions.

Nawww dog , youre trollin' -- the discs on my Tarmac squeak sometimes too , and are definitely not set up to purposely do that. The peloton did not have to non verbally communicate their braking activities when caliper brakes were being used so its silly to think theyd have to do that now
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As an objective C+V guy, I can tell you this.

My nephew just retired from being a professional road cyclist, so I have had the opportunity to ride these bikes for considerable miles.

They are superior in EVERY single department, to include comfort. Yes, I said it.

I love my lugged steel because they have a certain feel, and represent a romantic era of my lifespan. These modern "Super Bikes" (as they are coined) are jaw-droppingly (even a word?) incredible. They are so fast and smooth, it's insane.
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Old 09-03-20, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat View Post
They are superior in EVERY single department, to include comfort. Yes, I said it.
Impossible to say "every" department. Only time will tell how they compare in the longevity department. Maybe that's irrelevant in the culture of throwing out last year's phone, but not everyone lives there.
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Old 09-03-20, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Per what I see on Velo News.

I see differences in approach by frame designers. When did we see that with steel? More rare there, I think.

The Bianchi and Madone are hot. I have no issues with pro bike graphics but I resent in a teeny way paying to advertise a bike for the brand. I’m hypocritical that way because I dig my Wraith and want everyone to have one.

They all look fast, and I like fast, even if I am not.

When I look at the ‘20 TdF rides and those on C&V, I see links.

’55 Corvette and the new mid-engine model.
Hank Williams Sr and the BoDeans
Hootie & the Blowfish and the 70’s Methodist hymnal.
A Stearman biplane and the A6 Intruder

It is all relative.
Relatively speaking.
Like that one reminds me to listen to some bodeans...havn't for a while
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They should do a throwback day. Pick an era and have all riders adhere to the gear and rules of that time.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Someone in Marketing probably had the sense to realize that the large lettering works for TV cameras, but it isn't what buyers want in their own personal bike.

There must be fewer poseurs out there. Either that, or Q-ships have become the latest rage.

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Ernesto knew this way back, by observing old photographs of races, the Colnago club is Always very visible on the headtube.
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Originally Posted by joesch View Post
Did anybody else notice that with all of the crashes so far this year that several of the CF implosions have been quickly removed from the scene ? It was even pointed out by several of the talking heads.
Stop making sense, Life during war time.
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Here's a bunch of replies to this page postings:
Top gear? I've seen that Campy announced their new 13 gear cassette with a NINE tooth high.

Braking Noise? I thought those bull-roarer free hub ratchets were for warning people that they were making you slow down. And 40 years before that, the knurled brake surface wheel rims had a built in squeak (or roar) to let folks know you were stopping, or sufficed for "On your left".

Hiding bike failures? How many times in the last few years have some of the best riders stopped for "flats" with both their tires obviously round? The bikes got swapped out quickly since it was the electronic shifting that was failing. I even remember one instance in the last couple years when the rider wound up and threw his bike over the rail and far into the weeds - and was fined by the organizers for doing it.
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
Like that one reminds me to listen to some bodeans...havn't for a while
Blast from the past...just listened to a CD two weeks ago!
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Old 09-03-20, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckk View Post
.... the rider wound up and threw his bike over the rail ...
The real reason for minimum weight rules.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
I think the idea is that the frame looks like a Greyhound or fast four-legged animal. But yes, it borders on creepy.
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Hey, that would be a great tie-breaker in the event of a dead heat at the finish line... farthest bike toss FTW!!!
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
Nawww dog , youre trollin' -- the discs on my Tarmac squeak sometimes too , and are definitely not set up to purposely do that. The peloton did not have to non verbally communicate their braking activities when caliper brakes were being used so its silly to think theyd have to do that now
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If they needed to communicate, they'd have brake lights and turn signals.
Racing is frickin' racing. You don't signal to slow down, and you don't signal to pass.
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12 View Post
Stop making sense, Life during war time.
Love is like a bike on fire?
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Originally Posted by m_sasso View Post
Your ignorance is no justification as to why or why not also. What you may or or may not have heard means little, I suggest you communicate with some race mechanics and not internet tales.
I have, and I know a couple of pros. The idea of broadcasting your intentions makes them laugh. Even the mechanics.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I have, and I know a couple of pros. The idea of broadcasting your intentions makes them laugh. Even the mechanics.
Which is why I still ride bikes equipped with BarCons - I don't have to reach/move to shift. Stealth, Baby! /Sarcasm

Would I ever desire to ride one of these current TdF bikes? NOPE! Not chasing down that rabbit hole. Or as Popeye used to say "I am what I am, and that's all that I am..." My road bikes are FRICTION shift, six-speed freewheels - two are double-cranks, and two are triples. That's all that I need for what I do... Your riding may vary... ...and i really don't care! I'm a gray-haired balding, pot-bellied senior 'old fart' that still rides what I'm comfortable with. Now get off my lawn!
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Hold it, that was YOUR lawn?
Uh, well, it happens.
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Love is like a bike on fire?
Three hundred sixty-five degrees.
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I’m pleased to see Eddy Merckx and De Rosa bikes back in the Peloton. The paint job on the Astana Wilier bike in the breakaway (stage winner) was nice.
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Originally Posted by BFisher View Post
They should do a throwback day. Pick an era and have all riders adhere to the gear and rules of that time.
I think they have Eroica meet for the Tifosi on their bikes, but the roads are open to traffic then,

and all the TdF Furnishings are back in the warehouse..
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Hold it, that was YOUR lawn?
Uh, well, it happens.
Yeah, and at my age, I really don't care - about anything!

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Originally Posted by m_sasso View Post
The noise is set up purposely with disc brakes too allow other riders in the peloton to know when someone is braking without having to verbally communicate their actions.
Once again, they're reinventing something that's been done before.

MAFAC centerpulls, anyone?

Honestly, this is laughable unless you can come up with something that would make us believe you.

I'm guessing I'll have to hit the mute button in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
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Like dinosaurs depicted in the past as tail daggers the tail dragging look compact frames might be finally going extinct?? YAY!!
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat View Post
As an objective C+V guy, I can tell you this.

My nephew just retired from being a professional road cyclist, so I have had the opportunity to ride these bikes for considerable miles.

They are superior in EVERY single department, to include comfort. Yes, I said it.

I love my lugged steel because they have a certain feel, and represent a romantic era of my lifespan. These modern "Super Bikes" (as they are coined) are jaw-droppingly (even a word?) incredible. They are so fast and smooth, it's insane.

I was fortunate enough to get a killer deal on a non current S Works Tarmac (a 2017) -- I jumped on it . I have to agree. It is a great bike. It is more comfortable than my best steel bike . I love the Di2 (although I don't have any realistic complaints about a properly set up cable system ) --- The discs ARE noisy at times -- but disc brakes are the fashion of the times, ---- for my riding calipers work fine, -
but to compare it to the automotive world -- If you were paying $60,000 for a new pickup, you wouldn't want it to have 16" wheels , small brakes and a TBI engine


But ------ I do have a hilly 8 mile loop that I rode back to back (not same day - 2 days apart) on the Tarmac vs my mid 90's lugged ITalian bike with Record Ergo components --- both top of the range bikes, but 25 years apart --- I really thought the Tarmac would blow it away by 5 minutes or more, -- and felt like it. It did not. It was faster, but the vintage bike was also wearing a straight block cassette and a 53/39 crankset -- I literally had to walk the last 50 yards of one of the hills on the route on that old soldier, ---- the time difference between the 2 was roughly equal to the time I lost in having to grunt up and walk the hills
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