History of Dura Ace
09-21-20, 09:13 PM
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History of Dura Ace
I'm sure it's even cooler if you speak Japanese. 
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HAHAHAHA It's like they heard me.
...but I'm gonna say it was cooler in Japanese.
...but I'm gonna say it was cooler in Japanese.
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7400 6 speed is still my favorite. Great performance combined with a classic style.
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I'm not a Shimano fan but if it weren't for them, Campy would still be selling old Super Record with friction shifters as "state of the art". The same way Honda (and the other Japanese MC manufacturers) made Harley Davidson's products more reliable.
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
I'm not a Shimano fan but if it weren't for them, Campy would still be selling old Super Record with friction shifters as "state of the art". The same way Honda (and the other Japanese MC manufacturers) made Harley Davidson's products more reliable.
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
I'm not a Shimano fan but if it weren't for them, Campy would still be selling old Super Record with friction shifters as "state of the art".
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Originally Posted by b dub
7400 6 speed is still my favorite. Great performance combined with a classic style.
I find myself shifting one cog at a time instead of 2 and getting the same amount of gears.
There is a point where more cogs are useless.
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They missed a major innovation by not mentioning Hyperglide's ramped and profiled cogs, which were introduced in 1989. I'd put it right up there with SIS and STI in terms of shifting game changers.
Not quite so alarming was the bypassing of their improved dual pivot brake design, which started another industry trend.
Not quite so alarming was the bypassing of their improved dual pivot brake design, which started another industry trend.
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
Where were the Dyna Drive pedals and cranks???? 
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Almost as interesting as the changes in the components themselves: the evolution of the logo.
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It's getting more and more italicized. Experts believe that by 2050 the Dura Ace logo will be an infinitely long straight line.
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09-22-20, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
To this day, Dyna-Drive is my favourite toe clip and strap system. The pedals were incredibly stable and the easiest of all cup and cone pedals to overhaul. The matching crankset was the stiffest of it's era. Alexi Grewal was sponsored by SunTour but used Shimano Dyna-Drive on his Pinarello to win the 1984 Olympics road race.
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Originally Posted by b dub
7400 6 speed is still my favorite. Great performance combined with a classic style.
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Funny enough, my first foray into Shimano Dura Ace was last year when I bought a lovely gruppo from @Brewsmith, and a ridonculously underpriced set of DA/Mavic MA 40 wheels to match. Smooth. Hubs are glass like, shifting is smooth and crisp... Still love me Campy Ergo-8 stuff though.
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No experience with Dura Ace. And only just now getting ready to build wheels with Campy hubs. I've been an avid cyclist for 50 years. Better late than never.
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Originally Posted by sykerocker
Still my favorite setup, too. The gruppo that finally put Campagnolo on the scrap heap.
1990 and DA7400; I made the switch and never bought another Campagnolo product. I even trained myself to say "group" vs "gruppo".
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My first was a mixture of DA and Ultegra for 9 speed. I later got a bike with full 10 speed DA. I still think my Campy Chorus 10 speed is smoother.
I actually really like my 6 speed group.
I'd love a bike with AX if I found one.
I actually really like my 6 speed group.
I'd love a bike with AX if I found one.
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Heck, I'm still using Nuovo Record components.
Shimano's ever-evolving componentry is a blessing and a curse. Innovation is good but when you cannot get spare parts for something only a few years old,...
BTW, I bought a set of DURA-ACE brakes when they first came out, maybe 1973. I still have them but no longer use them.
Shimano's ever-evolving componentry is a blessing and a curse. Innovation is good but when you cannot get spare parts for something only a few years old,...
BTW, I bought a set of DURA-ACE brakes when they first came out, maybe 1973. I still have them but no longer use them.
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Originally Posted by P!N20
I think they should have stuck with 'ensemble'.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Campagnolo put themselves on my personal scrap heap with Syncro.
1990 and DA7400; I made the switch and never bought another Campagnolo product. I even trained myself to say "group" vs "gruppo".
1990 and DA7400; I made the switch and never bought another Campagnolo product. I even trained myself to say "group" vs "gruppo".
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Campagnolo put themselves on my personal scrap heap with Syncro.
1990 and DA7400; I made the switch and never bought another Campagnolo product. I even trained myself to say "group" vs "gruppo".
1990 and DA7400; I made the switch and never bought another Campagnolo product. I even trained myself to say "group" vs "gruppo".
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