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Old 10-05-20, 02:26 PM
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Peugeot PFN10 year confused





From what little I know from the serial number info I'd guess '83 but '81 seems more likely with the painted fork and chrome socks. I'm pretty sure it's a PFN10 though. The front rim is Mavic, the rear is an Araya with a 105 hub and an obvious replacement. Too bad it's gold. It's the nicest Pug I've ever owned and I'm hoping it's not too small for me. It's was listed for $75 so I cancelled everything to drive out and snatch it.
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Old 10-05-20, 02:45 PM
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That's an odd BB stamping. Haven't seen it before. Decal set ended for the most part in 81, so 80 or 81 PFN10 is probably where it's at based on the Vitus tubing and how it's equipped.

I take it the white chainstay sticker is gone? The front hub should have a 2-digit date, as should the seat post and stem, if original. You should grease both ASAP anyway, why not pull out and examine?

If it helps, here's one a year or two older I picked up on a deal a while back. They didn't change much on the hardware until closer to the mid-80s.

A Peugeot and a Puch. Which models do I have?
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Old 10-05-20, 06:28 PM
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as recalled, the PFN10 model launched in '78 (going from "memory" only)

its model 104 chainset launched in '77

certainly does not appear it could be so late as '83


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Old 10-06-20, 11:01 PM
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Thanks guys. Yeah, I got it pegged as a '81. The '80 had different tubing. It's totally broken down to the bare frame now and the paint is remarkably good. Even the saddle is original. It came apart without difficulty with standard tools except for the Maillard freewheel. I think it's going back together as is. I'm not terribly excited about the plastic wing nuts on the shift levers but everything seems to be solid. Not sure about that gold rear rim though.
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Have you looked at Retro Peugeot? I find the catalogs very helpful in narrowing down the year

https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broc...re%20PFN10.jpg
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If I may be so bold, the frame number stamping is B0120522. The front of the first two characters was not struck into the frame.

A frame date of 1980 December.

Here is a link to another PFN10 :

Peugeot vitus 181 special double butted?
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If I may be so bold, the frame number stamping is B0120522. The front of the first two characters was not struck into the frame.
Good call. Can't believe it didn't occur to me the stamping wasn't firmly in there.
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Originally Posted by Hummer View Post
If I may be so bold, the frame number stamping is B0120522. The front of the first two characters was not struck into the frame.

A frame date of 1980 December.

Here is a link to another PFN10 :

Peugeot vitus 181 special double butted?
A pic upon me for a miserable dolt. It was staring me in the face.

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Just a FYI: learn to like the shift levers plastic wing nuts because the drilling in the braze-ons is M5 x 1 which is an obsolete standard compared to the M5 x .8 which everyone else uses. You can replace it with a non-metric 10-24, 15/16ths allen headed bolt. The fit is slightly off but doable and you may want to use a removeable liquid thread lock to be really sure if you opt for that choice.
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Originally Posted by Cycle Tourist View Post
A pic upon me for a miserable dolt. It was staring me in the face.
Do not beat yourself up. I have looked at a lot of serial number stampings. Many frame manufacturing plants at some point have poorly or incorrectly stamped serial numbers.

I know what the 1980-1981 PFN10 stamping should look like, so it was not difficult to see what was wrong with the stamping.

If you do not know what the stamping is supposed to look like, how do you know if it is right or incorrect in some way?

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Did you happen to try taking out the bottom bracket drive-side cup? From your serial number pic, it looks to be the same type of BB.

I have the same model, likely from almost the same timeframe (the serial number begins B011), and I've been having an incredibly difficult time figuring out which way it's threaded (it really stuck in, which makes it hard to know if the problem is from turning the wrong way or not).

I'm 99% sure its not English threaded, which I believe leaves only French and Swiss, but I can't seem to figure out any more than that. FWIW, the fixed cup has one ring, and two flats that measure 36mm apart.
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Great call Hummer solved it there and then!!
I have an 83 PFN10 and the decals are much more in line with the 80s styling to come.

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Did you happen to try taking out the bottom bracket drive-side cup? From your serial number pic, it looks to be the same type of BB.

I have the same model, likely from almost the same timeframe (the serial number begins B011), and I've been having an incredibly difficult time figuring out which way it's threaded (it really stuck in, which makes it hard to know if the problem is from turning the wrong way or not).

I'm 99% sure its not English threaded, which I believe leaves only French and Swiss, but I can't seem to figure out any more than that. FWIW, the fixed cup has one ring, and two flats that measure 36mm apart.
You're going to want to start your own thread to get this sorted out. Plus pics of the markings on the fixed cup. Why do you want to take the fixed cup out?
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Originally Posted by Hummer View Post
If I may be so bold, the frame number stamping is B0120522. The front of the first two characters was not struck into the frame.

A frame date of 1980 December.

Here is a link to another PFN10 :

Peugeot vitus 181 special double butted?
Yup -- same as my son's (formerly my) 1980 PKN-10, serial number starting with B0. Your decals look a lot like ours.
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