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Ok, what model Peugeot is this:

Old 10-08-20, 03:58 PM
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Ok, what model Peugeot is this:

Looks like the PF60 in the 1982 US brochure on bikeboompeugeot.com, BUT this one has Mafac cantilever brakes, and the bars are Phillippe, and the crank is branded Peugeot (rings say stronglight) - and it goes 28-40-52 not 32-42-52 as in the brouchure...not that I'm complaining...

Everything looks original to me, Helicomatic with a 30-tooth big cog, Weinmann levers, Rigida eyeletted rims. Pedals will need work, does anyone have the caps for these (I need both).

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Decals would put it more in the early-mid 80s. We could really use to know the number stamped into the bottom bracket so we can iron out the date.

But I will say, if memory recalls, outside of the MTB/ATB bikes, the Vagabond should've been roughly equipped the same.
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decals would put it more in the early-mid 80s. We could really use to know the number stamped into the bottom bracket so we can iron out the date.
b3026620 - that's an upper-case B but the forum won't let me edit it to be one - odd.
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Looks a lot like the Centenary we saw recently. '82?
Without the Aero shifters of course. And cantis?
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b3026620 - that's an upper-case B but the forum won't let me edit it to be one - odd.
It's a 1983, Feb '83 so early. Let me see what I can find. I know Vagabond fits roughly the bill in this case for US, but ... maybe it's CAN or EU

Actually, if Vitus, it's PF-something if we follow Peugeot's standards with regard to PF/PV/PSV
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It's a 1983, Feb '83 so early. Let me see what I can find. I know Vagabond fits roughly the bill in this case for US, but ... maybe it's CAN or EU

Actually, if Vitus, it's PF-something if we follow Peugeot's standards with regard to PF/PV/PSV
Vitus 181 on the decal. All the PF60 images I've seen have centepull Mafacs, not cantis.
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Yeah, you got me on this one. There were a number of PFxx and PFNxx models. At least we know definitively the date of the frame, you should find the hubs, seat post and stem share an '82 or '83 date due to how closely the frame manufacture was to the 82/83 cusp.
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Decals are typical to 1983 models......
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I'm the least qualified for this...

... but could it be an early cyclocross example? Notice no mounts really for racks, just mounts for mud guards. I've seen Pinarello's with similar brakes during that time.

Again, way out of my expertise area.
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1983 PH60? I have found earlier examples of the PH60 with Cantilevers...
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Originally Posted by mechanicmatt View Post
1983 PH60? I have found earlier examples of the PH60 with Cantilevers...
All the catalogues/brochures I looked at seemed to have PH models built with 103 or something else low-end - this one has the Vitus decal.
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Ok, started taking it apart; there is good news and there is bad news.

Good news - everything is threaded english.

Bad - stuck seatpost.

frame is now upside down and penetrating oil being applied throuigh the BB shell (that's how I know it's english).

Edit: fork is 25mm and French. Tant pis, c'est normal.

Edit again, not english, swiss (see below).

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This bike is seeming more and more like floor sweepings. I've looked at every 1980 to 1985 catalog on bikeboompeugeot, at pages & pages of google images for various searches involving combinations of vitus/peugeot/cantilever/touring/randonneur/etcetera, nothing matches. Cantilevers and a Vitus frame and a triple crankset - a wider triple than anything in the brochures; and pretty much surely 1983.

No paper label.
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The important stuff - does it fit? how does it ride? good luck with the seat post
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After finding the fork was metric I started measuring and checking things again.

Tubes are metric - Steerer 25mm, seat and down 28.1 (paint) and top 26.1 (again paint).

And that adjustable cup that came out nice and easy left-handed? Not English, it's SWISS, both cups are metric.

What the hell have I got here?
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Chainstays look short, so looking more like a cyclocross model than any touring bike.

But a cyclocross bike doesn't typically have a triple. I use a triple for CX so that the chain has a good place to fall if it does fall off the small ring.
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Chainstays look short, so looking more like a cyclocross model than any touring bike.
16 3/4" from crank centre to the back of the axle slot.
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More measurements - 126mm rear, frame weighs 4.6 lbs, for 1.7 lbs, Seat post is 26.3-ish (got the damm thing out, had quite a crust of corrosion on it, might have made it a bit smaller cleaning all that off).

That's a pretty light frame for steel-not-high-end, I'm happy, except now I don't know what to do with it. It's too big for me, I already have a tourer.

It's a shame to part it out - it's in fabulous shape and everything matches - but who would buy it whole, with all the oddities - swiss BB, french steerer,metric tubes, cantis - plus shipping form here?
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After finding the fork was metric I started measuring and checking things again.

Tubes are metric - Steerer 25mm, seat and down 28.1 (paint) and top 26.1 (again paint).

And that adjustable cup that came out nice and easy left-handed? Not English, it's SWISS, both cups are metric.

What the hell have I got here?
I presume you mean the left-threaded fixed cup. My 1980 PKN-10 has as Swiss-threaded bottom bracket, so I am not surprised your Peugeot does, as well.
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More measurements - 126mm rear, frame weighs 4.6 lbs, for 1.7 lbs, Seat post is 26.3-ish (got the damm thing out, had quite a crust of corrosion on it, might have made it a bit smaller cleaning all that off).

That's a pretty light frame for steel-not-high-end, I'm happy, except now I don't know what to do with it. It's too big for me, I already have a tourer.

It's a shame to part it out - it's in fabulous shape and everything matches - but who would buy it whole, with all the oddities - swiss BB, french steerer,metric tubes, cantis - plus shipping form here?
A 26.4mm seat post is entirely consistent with a double-butted moly steel frame with a hard metric 28mm outer diameter seat tube.

Nice find!

The deviation between your chainring sizes and those in the catalog could just be the result of a bit of "gear freaking" or customization on the part of an earlier owner, or just a substitution at the factory because of a parts shortage. I have routinely regeared every bicycle I have owned, to meet my own needs -- there is absolutely nothing sacred about catalog-listed tooth counts on either the crank or the rear axle.
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