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merziac 10-16-20 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Drillium Dude (Post 21746278)
What?

Threads like this always confuse me. I don't even understand the question :)

DD

Sorry, its partly a trick question and you may well be very disappointed when we get there. ;)

merziac 10-16-20 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 21746373)
Foot not pointing straight ahead. Are the cleats mounted at an angle?

If this was a land mine...... ;)

The pic angle is wonky. :innocent:

merziac 10-16-20 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21746377)
The JBL won't stay secure in an alloy Elite Ciussi so you had to buy a mismatched stainless version? :foo:

Nope, not a Ciussi...


Correct about the JBL, too big for any standard cage, had a Arudel loony bin but switched to this Blackburn for a little better clearance in my wacky setup.

Still not what we're looking for. ;)

clubman 10-16-20 04:14 PM

OK, it's gotta be the left loop/brace(?) of the clip appears to fit the shoe perfectly at rest but as you pedal, the left slips away, causing abrasion on the outside right of your classic shoes. Tell me I'm right, pretty please?

merziac 10-16-20 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21746377)
The JBL won't stay secure in an alloy Elite Ciussi so you had to buy a mismatched stainless version? :foo:

Nope, not a Ciussi...


Yep, not Ciussi, brand is Tallac and I don't think they sell this version anymore, they still have the stainless version, I have had these for at least 5 years with zero issues, they have been overloaded with tool and lock bottles, bent, tweaked and twisted plenty. :twitchy:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TALLAC-Stai...AAAOSwtM1ZzTsW

merziac 10-16-20 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21746454)
OK, it's gotta be the left loop/brace(?) of the clip appears to fit the shoe perfectly at rest but as you pedal, the left slips away, causing abrasion on the outside right of your classic shoes. Tell me I'm right, pretty please?

If it was a landmine.... :rolleyes:

Think cause and outside the box, cage, etc. :innocent:

panzerwagon is also right on top of or underneath it as well. :twitchy:

The answer is in this post. :crash:

https://www.bikeforums.net/21738831-post258.html

non-fixie 10-16-20 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by pcb (Post 21746211)
(...) Merziac uncharacteristically shows a craven indifference to How Things Are Meant To Be. (...)

Speaking of which: those socks! :eek:

CroMo Mike 10-16-20 04:35 PM

Medium sized feet in large sized toe clips ?

merziac 10-16-20 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 21746479)
Speaking of which: those socks! :eek:

Yeah, but they are wool. ;)

merziac 10-16-20 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by CroMo Mike (Post 21746482)
Medium sized feet in large sized toe clips ?

Maybe but they're size 12 so nope. :rolleyes:

merziac 10-16-20 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by hazetguy (Post 21746493)
oh, i see now. you're in the small chainring. wimp. htfu!!

That's not the small ring, the small ring is 24t, but I had used it earlier trying to drag my sorry azz up Mt. Tabor.

Yep, wimp all the way, nothing for hills no power, don't care, yada, yada. :roflmao2:

non-fixie 10-16-20 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21746497)
Yeah, but they are wool. ;)

Jan Janssen (TdF 1968) mentioned in an interview recently that anyone in his Sunday morning riding group who shows up in anything other than white socks gets sent home. By him. :)

panzerwagon 10-16-20 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by merziac
As the other post states, I ride with everything just a bit loose to corral my feet, no cleats, just shoes with some traction.

No cleats? That’s it?? You dragged us all through this thread for sheer cleatlessness?? Not just your shoes that need traction.... 😑

panzerwagon 10-16-20 05:10 PM

For the record, I like the socks. “Wool me once, shame on you. Wool me twice, get a matching pair, and you won’t go pulling the wool over us again.”

I’ll let myself out.

CroMo Mike 10-16-20 05:10 PM

Actually, your shoes look a bit too large for your feet, judging from the wrinkles in the leather.

merziac 10-16-20 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 21746511)
No cleats? That’s it?? You dragged us all through this thread for sheer cleatlessness?? Not just your shoes that need traction.... 😑

We have a winner but not simply no cleats, I don't have that big of a death wish.

Had a protective sole and heel put on them, traction is good, wear like iron.

Been wanting to do this for awhile but couldn't find a pair in my size for cheap, didn't want to invest too much if it didn't work out.

These came with a recent bike deal and were big enough being a bit big, my feet won't do tight so they work.

Turns out these work great, I hiked a hill partway just to see and all's good.

Should have done this sooner, wasn't cheap but at least I didn't really pay for the shoes.

No hints next time. ;)


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e43c84784d.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5633a08efa.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...824b88406d.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7a4ca2a5fb.jpg

merziac 10-16-20 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 21746511)
No cleats? That’s it?? You dragged us all through this thread for sheer cleatlessness?? Not just your shoes that need traction.... 😑

Ain't that the truth. :twitchy:

merziac 10-16-20 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 21746505)
Jan Janssen (TdF 1968) mentioned in an interview recently that anyone in his Sunday morning riding group who shows up in anything other than white socks gets sent home. By him. :)

Good thing I won't be riding with him anytime soon. :D

merziac 10-16-20 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by CroMo Mike (Post 21746516)
Actually, your shoes look a bit too large for your feet, judging from the wrinkles in the leather.

Yep, they are, my feet won't do tight at all, these are perfect, remember no getting after it for me, just riding along ticking off a few miles. :o

jackbombay 10-16-20 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by OldsCOOL (Post 21746247)
Too much hair?

That is peach fuzz compared to my lucious leg pelt!



I like the shoe mod, combined with clips and straps I'm sure they are very functional!

merziac 10-16-20 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by jackbombay (Post 21746698)
That is peach fuzz compared to my lucious leg pelt!



I like the shoe mod, combined with clips and straps I'm sure they are very functional!

Tx!

Yep just got back from the second ride with them, could not have planned it better if I knew what I was doing. ;)

What the h**l was I waiting for? Oh yeah, I'm cheap and this wasn't but so far is well worth it. :twitchy:

Drillium Dude 10-16-20 09:08 PM

Well, don't hold out on us! Who did the shoe modification, how was it done, where did the materials come from? Come on, man :)

I'm sure there are some interested in doing something similar. I might even be one of them. So spill!

DD

merziac 10-16-20 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Drillium Dude (Post 21746724)
Well, don't hold out on us! Who did the shoe modification, how was it done, where did the materials come from? Come on, man :)

I'm sure there are some interested in doing something similar. I might even be one of them. So spill!

DD

So its very common stuff, these protective soles can be put on many soles, especially smooth leather, dress shoes, cowboy boots and it turns out old school cycling shoes.

I think they could be applied to modern as well with the right cobbler.

I have them on my last two pair of cowboy boots and its been awhile but I had quotes for these at 35 to 40-50, several wouldn't do it so you have to find "a guy, or gal".

I found a guy who didn't even hesitate, heels, soles and new piping around the back on both was $70. After it was done I had found another shop next to a tailor where I took some eddie bauer shirts to be repaired on eddies dime, talked to the gal there who said she would do them too for about the same $$$.

Shoes on the run on 8th and Morrison underneath the 7-11 is who did these.

If you have any good shoes that you want to last forever, these protective soles are worth every penny, both pair of cowboy boots that I have still look brand new after 30 yrs on one and 20yrs on the other, very thin, tough as nails, waterproof and way better traction all the way around.

I would work with them to maybe flatten the sole a bit to make them even more comfortable in the long run but I see these going a lot of miles.

non-fixie 10-17-20 02:50 AM

That is the way to do it. Works really well for touring. I have two pairs that came with such a sole and heel as standard. This is the nicest pair:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...412eea8056.jpg

Drillium Dude 10-17-20 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21746755)
So its very common stuff, these protective soles can be put on many soles, especially smooth leather, dress shoes, cowboy boots and it turns out old school cycling shoes.

I think they could be applied to modern as well with the right cobbler.

I have them on my last two pair of cowboy boots and its been awhile but I had quotes for these at 35 to 40-50, several wouldn't do it so you have to find "a guy, or gal".

I found a guy who didn't even hesitate, heels, soles and new piping around the back on both was $70. After it was done I had found another shop next to a tailor where I took some eddie bauer shirts to be repaired on eddies dime, talked to the gal there who said she would do them too for about the same $$$.

Shoes on the run on 8th and Morrison underneath the 7-11 is who did these.

If you have any good shoes that you want to last forever, these protective soles are worth every penny, both pair of cowboy boots that I have still look brand new after 30 yrs on one and 20yrs on the other, very thin, tough as nails, waterproof and way better traction all the way around.

I would work with them to maybe flatten the sole a bit to make them even more comfortable in the long run but I see these going a lot of miles.

Thanks. I'm gonna see if I can't find these materials and DIY on an old pair of Dettos :)

DD

TheLizard 10-19-20 11:29 AM

There seems to be some sort of torture device attached to the pedals.

smontanaro 10-19-20 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21746530)
We have a winner but not simply no cleats, I don't have that big of a death wish.

Had a protective sole and heel put on them, traction is good, wear like iron.

Nice. I recently purchased a used pair of Detto Pietros in my size. Got my first chance to try them this morning. The plastic soles have absolutely nothing to a) keep your foot from slipping when you push off from a start or b) help you get into the toe clips. I do have cleats on them. I might consider a wee bit of a heel and a little bit of rubber up front. I'll continue with the cleats themselves, however. It hasn't taken much time to get reacquainted with them after using various Sampson and Look pedals for 20-30 years.

dkatz1 10-19-20 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21745388)
No pedals coming loose, I know those extenders are scary but the makers really stand behind them and I have minimal power output most of the time. Never had any problem with them.

The stance is crazy wide, dictated by my left ankle that is very crooked and turns my heel way in so it bangs on the chainstay without them, have tried running just the left but that aggravates more other things so I run both for balance and it works good with no problems.

Here's my rant from one of the other threads, ;)

https://www.bikeforums.net/21738831-post258.html

Before I had my knee replaced, I had spacers, right side only.
I was in a car wreck that did a number on my leg (in 1972)....by 2012, aside from having that let an inch and half shorter than the other (because of the 65 days in traction) I was walking with my right foot pointing out about 45 degrees.
The knee replacement surgery took care of that: now when I walk both feet are pointing in the same direction. So I ditched the spacer.

merziac 10-19-20 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by dkatz1 (Post 21750203)
Before I had my knee replaced, I had spacers, right side only.
I was in a car wreck that did a number on my leg (in 1972)....by 2012, aside from having that let an inch and half shorter than the other (because of the 65 days in traction) I was walking with my right foot pointing out about 45 degrees.
The knee replacement surgery took care of that: now when I walk both feet are pointing in the same direction. So I ditched the spacer.

Glad you got it sorted, I work at a hospital and all the ortho surgeons say I will never get a knee because of my ankle, getting ready to go out of KP for a second opinion. ;)

What part was crooked and how did the knee fix it? :foo:

merziac 10-19-20 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by TheLizard (Post 21750005)
There seems to be some sort of torture device attached to the pedals.

That's the view from the clipless crowd for sure. :twitchy:

Aesthetics are equally important here for me as well as don't do clipless with a crooked ankle is a no go for me. ;)


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