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Old 10-28-20, 09:21 PM
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Mystery Marketplace Bike: COLIN

In my experience, y'all know everything, so I thought I'd run this by. It's listed on FB Marketplace near Tulsa, Oklahoma as a "TI Reynolds" with two poor photos. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...82342763139153

There does appear to be a Reynolds decal on the seat tube. But otherwise, the downtube says COLIN and the head badge is just a C with illegible words below it. There is also a name painted on the top tube, Red McSomething.

I've asked for more pictures, but no reply yet. Any thoughts on what this is? I need an interesting winter project.


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Dunno, maybe something to do with Colin Laing (UK and then Arizona-based)? In any case my advice: BUY now, ask questions later (when you can take better pix, too)!
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^^^ my thoughts, too
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I knew this place was ridiculously good! Colin Laing it is! I had been going down that road but was ready to dismiss it because I couldn't find any graphics that looked like this bike. Then I found this thread: Very Early Colin Laing MTB Frame? Now I just need to find some time to get to Checotah before others see this thread! Also, any quick ideas on that groupset?

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Get. It. Now.

Questions later!

e: be wary of the fork
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Yup. Front rim may be compromised, too. The fork has definitely taken a head-on impact.
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Drivetrain appears to be Shimano New 600EX with the 1986-1987 SIS compatible rear derailleur. Hubset may be same but it's hard to tell. Brakeset is something else but I'm not sure of the identity.
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ever the optimist, I'm going to suggest that fork and rim might actually be fine: that a floppy flat tire makes the front rim look warped, and a stem twisted off to the left fools us into seeing a right-turned fork as bent.
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Neato! My Colin Laing has not disappointed! They're world class, undervalued as heck, with nods back to Jack Taylor in their construction (Colin was an apprentice to Jack, and hung out there a lot as a youngster supposedly because of a bad situation at his parents' place).

Yah, we know camera angles can deceive when it comes to forks. I've seen it myself, measuring a fork as damn straight with precision tools in the machine shop and then snapping a pic and presto it looks bent.
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The fork looks fine, it is just on an angle.

And the tire is just off of the rim.

Buy it.

Post pics

I am envious.
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
Buy it.

Post pics
yes
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drive chain a few links short of a "full deck"

appears "big/big" would be a physical impossibility...


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Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA is a place where even squares can have a ball, but I probably can't make the trip to see the bike before the weekend. If one of y'all scoops it up before me, I won't be mad as long as you post pictures.
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Always liked the wishbone seatstay treatment.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
Drivetrain appears to be Shimano New 600EX with the 1986-1987 SIS compatible rear derailleur. Hubset may be same but it's hard to tell. Brakeset is something else but I'm not sure of the identity.
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Laing seems to have been a little playful with his decals through the years, with a couple/few different variants of his first/last name, maybe even used his son's name for a bit? He's known as a talented, solid builder, never heard anybody saying they got one that was shoddy, wasn't well-built, had problems.

Fork may not be bent, maybe the common camera-angle-who-the-heck-knows-why phenomenon, or the darker color and shadow at the top of the blades. But it could be bent.

Bigger worry is how rusty the chain is, and how clean the rest of the parts are. You wouldn't normally install a totally rusted-out chain on a clean bike, so it looks like everything got well-scrubbed except for the chain. There's also that weird discoloring at the stem/bar junction, looks rust-ish, but both parts are alloy. And again, otherwise that area looks very clean. So why that brown, and why the chain?

Seems possible the bike lived rough for awhile, as the Brits would say, outdoors in Oklahoma, which can't be great. Look esp for rust where the brake housing enters/exits the top tube, see if you can move/shake the frame a bit and listen for any rust scabs rattling around inside the frame tubes. Check the bottom bracket shell/tubes area, common spot for water to pool, get under the paint, and start some rust spiders.

I'm not at all sounding the "Stay Far Away!" foghorn, just pointing out some things maybe worth checking. The parts aren't particularly valuable, so you're mostly buying a frameset, and if there are significant rust issues and/or the fork is bent, much less value there. Of course, if the price is stupid cheap, like you could sell off a couple/few parts and get your $$$ back, less to be concerned about.
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I agree with @pcb above. Just be careful and check for rust. Would be ideal to test ride, but maybe you can't with the chain and front tire condition? The price is defintaely cheap at $200, though. Feel free to wheel and deal is you see more rust spots. Can't hurt and worse case is that they can say "no." Could offer $150 if some rust and maybe offer to meet in the middle if they are persistent? Sounds crazy, but I'd be tempted to bring a front wheel and chain to get a good test ride.

Edit: This looks like a 60cm or bigger frame. Does it fit you? Are you over 6 feet tall and wear pants with longer than a 32 inch inseam?

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Laing seems to have been a little playful with his decals through the years, with a couple/few different variants of his first/last name, maybe even used his son's name for a bit? He's known as a talented, solid builder, never heard anybody saying they got one that was shoddy, wasn't well-built, had problems.

Fork may not be bent, maybe the common camera-angle-who-the-heck-knows-why phenomenon, or the darker color and shadow at the top of the blades. But it could be bent.

Bigger worry is how rusty the chain is, and how clean the rest of the parts are. You wouldn't normally install a totally rusted-out chain on a clean bike, so it looks like everything got well-scrubbed except for the chain. There's also that weird discoloring at the stem/bar junction, looks rust-ish, but both parts are alloy. And again, otherwise that area looks very clean. So why that brown, and why the chain?

Seems possible the bike lived rough for awhile, as the Brits would say, outdoors in Oklahoma, which can't be great. Look esp for rust where the brake housing enters/exits the top tube, see if you can move/shake the frame a bit and listen for any rust scabs rattling around inside the frame tubes. Check the bottom bracket shell/tubes area, common spot for water to pool, get under the paint, and start some rust spiders.

I'm not at all sounding the "Stay Far Away!" foghorn, just pointing out some things maybe worth checking. The parts aren't particularly valuable, so you're mostly buying a frameset, and if there are significant rust issues and/or the fork is bent, much less value there. Of course, if the price is stupid cheap, like you could sell off a couple/few parts and get your $$$ back, less to be concerned about.
You are mostly spot on about the livery, some of it denoted where, who and when it was built.

His other son posts here often and just recently found his dads book of builds so if somebody gets this we need the number to see what's what.

There is a pretty good thread here somewhere he runs a lot of it down.

Paging @selaing

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Ask for the name on the top tube. Ask if there is a number on the bottom bracket? This bike frame was probably build at 1985/86.
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Ask for the name on the top tube. Ask if there is a number on the bottom bracket? This bike frame was probably build at 1985/86.
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Hi Stuart, tx for chiming in.

OP says name on TT is Red Mc........

No response from seller for more pics and info yet.
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Originally Posted by dbhouston View Post
Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA is a place where even squares can have a ball, but I probably can't make the trip to see the bike before the weekend. If one of y'all scoops it up before me, I won't be mad as long as you post pictures.
His son has posted here now and will help with more info.

All issues aside and considered, I would make this happen post haste if at all possible.
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"Who is Rod McGreasy?"

Sounds like the beginning to an epic novel, doesn't it?

Seriously, why is the thru-top tube cable entry on the ds? That makes for awkward routing from a right aero lever.
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His son has posted here now and will help with more info.

All issues aside and considered, I would make this happen post haste if at all possible.
It's a bit of a trip from here in Tulsa, so aiming for Saturday if it and the seller are available.
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It's a bit of a trip from here in Tulsa, so aiming for Saturday if it and the seller are available.
Make it so.
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Heard back from the seller this morning ... he has Covid and isn't doing any selling right now. That's rough for him, and a bummer for me. I'll let y'all know when something happens with this bike.
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