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Old 11-11-20, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Somecs are thinner on the ground, and as a result less well-known and likely to cost a little less. Also likely to give one more of a feeling of exclusivity if that's what one is after

Especially if it is embellished with pantographing and cat stickers:



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Originally Posted by Ungaro View Post
Shannon, that's the one I'm looking at on Friday!
I THINK Iíve seen Aelle and/or Cromor Somecs around on eBay. I seem to remember it/them without the head lug treatment.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
You hate Dentists!
Cancel Culture: you!

hey now that’s a pretty serious accusation
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Originally Posted by wheatfly View Post
Iíve been eyeing this SOMEC that has been on the local Craigslist for a while. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/b...204877310.html

I donít know the brand well but saw a similar paint scheme and Somec on FB market place a few months back. It was under $200 with crappy pics. I messaged within 15 min after it was posted but someone snatched it up quick. I wondered what it may have been as Iím not sure how ďlow endĒ the model line of SOMEC goes?

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Dude, please snag that Somec. You can find another De Rosa!!
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Originally Posted by Yelbom15 View Post
Dude, please snag that Somec. You can find another De Rosa!!
I vote Somec for this exact reason. Hard to beieve you can go wrong either way, though.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc View Post
I THINK I’ve seen Aelle and/or Cromor Somecs around on eBay. I seem to remember it/them without the head lug treatment.
Very well could be. Seems like SL tubing and above got the cool head lugs.

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
great looking bike, I love the Gipimme group


Gipiemme is also, like SOMEC, underrepresented. IT Has Gipiemme hubs, brake calipers and crankset (BB, dunno); Campagnolo fd & rd, and brake levers; Mavic shifters.
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Buy one of each and live with them for a bit.

Internet discussions are fun, but you can tell the difference when you compare in person.
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Originally Posted by onyerleft View Post
I might be the only person who votes for SOMEC. DeRosa was a dentist bike. If you rode a SOMEC, you were in the know. If you rode a DeRosa, you had more money than brains. Just sayin'.
I currently own five classic track bikes including an Eddy Merckx and the de Rosa rides the best - so fast and responsive. It's not the most expensive bike I own, or the best condition, but it's for sure the last one I'd sell. I don't think my dentist would want it.
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Right now there are 14 Somec bikes or frames on ebay and around 30 de Rosas.
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Originally Posted by onyerleft View Post
DeRosa was a dentist bike. If you rode a SOMEC, you were in the know. If you rode a DeRosa, you had more money than brains.
Not in my experience.

The shop I rode for had three options with a De Rosa frameset.

Think of good, better, best.

It was all defined by groupsets.

The "dentists" were not racing att. Think of 22 year old's right out of college. They were riding for the local shops and/or schools.

A few bought the Campy options.

Everyone else bought the frameset with 7400 or Suntour.

I rode/raced with 7400.

Dentist bikes hit the front page here with Serotta.
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Originally Posted by Biketiger View Post
Right now there are 14 Somec bikes or frames on ebay and around 30 de Rosas.

and 847 Colnagos! LOL
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Originally Posted by Ungaro View Post
Nice Air! What year is that? The one I’m looking at is not an Air, but does have the same seat tube decal and has the cool head lug panto.
I think it's around '85 or so. And mine had a Super Corsa decal on the non-DS chainstay, so apparently that's mine's model name; this is the replacement, just like the original:



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Someone should buy that just to get the bars and levers in the right position.
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De Rosa with DA 7400





Originally Posted by gomango View Post
Not in my experience.

The shop I rode for had three options with a De Rosa frameset.

Think of good, better, best.

It was all defined by groupsets.

The "dentists" were not racing att. Think of 22 year old's right out of college. They were riding for the local shops and/or schools.

A few bought the Campy options.

Everyone else bought the frameset with 7400 or Suntour.

I rode/raced with 7400.

Dentist bikes hit the front page here with Serotta.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
great looking bike, I love the Gipimme group


Early Somec Air...really nice. over here it would cost min 1.5x, frames go for EUR700-1500 depending on condition and original paint... the bar (at least the tape) the sadlle and the tires should would ( if it was mine) go...

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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
Someone should buy that just to get the bars and levers in the right position.
Arent you the one who needs one?
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Originally Posted by Lattz View Post
Arent you the one who needs one?
'Want' more than 'need'. Wrong continent unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
'Want' more than 'need'. Wrong continent unfortunately.
I know.... I told you I've checked the shipping prices so we need to find something nice at such a low price which makes up for them.
Mine was EUR100, friend's (who got the plague for Somecs after seeing mine) Cromor with Martini paint was 140, Air 2001 sold last month in Switzerland for CHF160 (I'M still crying if I just think about that).
Still there are plenty of people not knowing what they have.

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I might be the only person who votes for SOMEC. DeRosa was a dentist bike. If you rode a SOMEC, you were in the know. If you rode a DeRosa, you had more money than brains. Just sayin'.
I feel that way about Leicas,,,,,,

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Expanding bucket list. De Rosa in the stable so it may be time to look for SOMEC. It took years to get the DR Pro.
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Without pics or knowing if pricing is good, fair, or overpaying...just get the DeRosa. It really is that easy.
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Brought it home!

SOMEC for the win!
If the DeRosa had been a bit larger, it would have been a tough decision. But like I say: if it doesnít fit, then color and price donít matter. Need to swap out the stem from a 120mm to a 100mm, and may change out brake levers & calipers at that time. Will post some detail shots in a day or two.
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
Someone should buy that just to get the bars and levers in the right position.
That was the first thing I did before I test rode it! Even if I didnít get it, I was going to set the bars right!
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