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Old 12-04-20, 04:23 PM
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Show us your C&V Cyclocross bikes

If you have a C&V cyclocross bike, post it here. I'll start.

I've never tried cyclocross, but was thinking I'd give it a whirl this fall. COVID has nixed that idea. Still, over the past couple years I've acquired a few used cyclocross tubulars, a couple Dugasts, an FMB and a Challenge. All are in the 33-34mm range size-wise and seem to sort of be in decent shape. I don't actually have a proper C&V cyclocross frame though. Today I finished messing around with the Dugasts. The base tape was coated in what I took to be tubular tape residue (there is some question about that though) and stitching on one of them had torn. The glue/goo took a bit of effort to remove, but I have them cleaned up enough that I feel I can safely glue them up. I test fit them to a pair of Wolber Aspin/Campy Record wheels, pumped them to 20psi and hung them on my Schwinn Super Sport. It's clearly not a real CX frame, given the Schwinn below-the-top-tube cable routing and lack of canti posts. The tires just fit. I think they give the bike a bit of a bada** look (yes, I know the brake cable loops are too big - I'll fix that one of these days):



I'll try to get them glued up in the next couple days and take them out to the local park. Low gear will be something like 42-28, so I imagine I'll wind up walking up a couple of the one hill (Mount Trashmore).
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Pinarello cross

I've been wanting a vintage cross bike for a while and when this Pinarello cross showed up in my size, I snapped it up. I haven't decided how I'm going to build it up yet (2 x 7 or 3 x 7). I've mocked it up with tires and it handles 32c clinchers comfortably. I may talk myself into buying some cross tubulars though as I know the ride will be plush and I have some quality tubular wheelsets sitting around. This is as the bike came to me in the "wild" with a bunch of OK but inexpensive Japanese gear. I think I'm going to build it up with suntour xc pro and command shifters.




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Originally Posted by smontanaro View Post
If you have a C&V cyclocross bike, post it here. I'll start.

I've never tried cyclocross, but was thinking I'd give it a whirl this fall. COVID has nixed that idea. Still, over the past couple years I've acquired a few used cyclocross tubulars, a couple Dugasts, an FMB and a Challenge. All are in the 33-34mm range size-wise and seem to sort of be in decent shape. I don't actually have a proper C&V cyclocross frame though. Today I finished messing around with the Dugasts. The base tape was coated in what I took to be tubular tape residue (there is some question about that though) and stitching on one of them had torn. The glue/goo took a bit of effort to remove, but I have them cleaned up enough that I feel I can safely glue them up. I test fit them to a pair of Wolber Aspin/Campy Record wheels, pumped them to 20psi and hung them on my Schwinn Super Sport. It's clearly not a real CX frame, given the Schwinn below-the-top-tube cable routing and lack of canti posts. The tires just fit. I think they give the bike a bit of a bada** look (yes, I know the brake cable loops are too big - I'll fix that one of these days):



I'll try to get them glued up in the next couple days and take them out to the local park. Low gear will be something like 42-28, so I imagine I'll wind up walking up a couple of the one hill (Mount Trashmore).
Interesting rear brake placement. Is that to gain a little more tire clearance?
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Interesting rear brake placement. Is that to gain a little more tire clearance?
Flipping the caliper like that lines up its control bits (quick release, adjuster) with the placement of the brake housing ferrules on the frame. It would appear the Super Sport of that era (early 80s) was speced with brakes whose calipers were mirror images of mine.
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OP, you could modify a triple for a 1x drivetrain with guard. 36 x 13-28 would give you a range of 34-74 inches.
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This will be good. I missed out on a Pinarello CX bike back when I was looking for a C&V CX bike. It had a rear DT shifter and single chainwheeel with cantis. I ended up getting a Surly Crosscheck and when it got stolen, I got a Milwaukee Road that had room for my tubular CX tires under long reach brakes.
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Originally Posted by smontanaro View Post
Flipping the caliper like that lines up its cable entry with the frame's drive housing stop.
Ah. Makes sense. I put modern side-pulls on my old Paramount, so I route the rear cable from its drive-side cable stop to the nds of the seat tube and seat stay, sort of like you're doing on the front.



Always wanted a vintage cross bike, but just to gravel grind.
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Old 12-04-20, 08:27 PM
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Always wanted a vintage cross bike, but just to gravel grind.
​​​​​​​Likely my main use as well.
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I fell into an older Alan frameset a few years back, and built it up to play with it. These were "screwed & glued" aluminum, pretty light for what they were. Had a blast with it until I realized that I could watch the front axle move 1" or so front to back while the fork sucked up bumps - was probably OK, but it gave me pause, as I didn't fancy seeing the fork blades go their own way as I wailed on it.
Replaced it a little later with a steel LeMond Poprad - way better.
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Maybe not fully C&V but I've seen in the past Colnago cross frames in steel, would love to get that, an early Serotta or a Fat Chance and deck it out with 8sp Dura Ace STI, XTR rear der and Canti brakes. Just wish 7400 Dura Ace came in a smaller BCD, when I started cross a 38t was fine, now I'm really liking the 34t chainring.
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this is super cool.
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I have got all the right parts - Mafac cantis, Campag bar ends, etc. And I have had it for ages. Built the wheels many years ago. Brazed new cable stops in place as the original ones had cracked. A frame with some provenance as it was built for a professional racer and a special order at the factory.

Still not got around finishing it... Some day though - it will be done.




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This is my Bernard Carre´, circa late 60's/early 70's. When it popped up on French eBay advertised as a "randonneur," we debated on the CR list whether that was an apt description or not. Cantilever brakes and lots of tire clearance stimulated the debate. Norris, I think, declared it to most likely be a 'cross bike, and that's pretty much where the discussion landed. I liked what I saw and had already pulled the trigger before any conclusions had been reached.



I've built the frame up a couple of ways, usually with wildly incorrect parts, and I did (very briefly) build a sort of drop bar rough stuff ride at one point. I love the feel of the ride though, and began to collect together some French stuff that I also like. During the first quarantine last spring, I put together a French road bike, which is probably the final-ish version.



So, was this originally a 'cross bike. I tend to think so. Others have shared with me examples of racers who used cantis, and they are confident theirs interpretation is more accurate. I leave it to you to reach your own conclusion.
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Not sure if it is old enough; 1997 SwissCross, mostly orginal.
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This is Zero Uno tubing, fully lugged and Reparto Corse built. They were only sold for two years and only as a frameset.



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Originally Posted by aeshultz View Post
I fell into an older Alan frameset a few years back, and built it up to play with it. These were "screwed & glued" aluminum, pretty light for what they were. Had a blast with it until I realized that I could watch the front axle move 1" or so front to back while the fork sucked up bumps - was probably OK, but it gave me pause, as I didn't fancy seeing the fork blades go their own way as I wailed on it.
Replaced it a little later with a steel LeMond Poprad - way better.
I had an off-topic 2008 GT cyclocross bike with an Easton carbon fiber fork and cantilever brakes. One race that I did that was basically a loop down and back up quite a steep hill I found that with the cable hangar up by the stem there was a significant amount of judder when braking hard on the front. It's probably exaggerated in my head, but it looked like my fork was flexing back and forth about an inch as well!

I found out over two races that I don't really like racing cyclocross, but I sure do want a vintage CX frame.
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[snip]...would love to get that, an early Serotta...
Sold this frame earlier this year, but it was the earliest true cross frame I've ever had. Fuquay was a Serotta framebuilder, and built this as his own cross race frame. So despite being decaled a Serotta Custom, there's not a lot Serotta-y about it, at least as far as 1990 Serottas went. Really light frame, seatstays flexed considerably when braking w/o the booster I used. First/only time I've seen seatstay caps squared-off at the apex. Went through a couple/few builds, ended up restomod-y.







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I found out over two races that I don't really like racing cyclocross, but I sure do want a vintage CX frame.
I did ride a Passage as a single-speed with knobbies, that was pretty fun even if it wasn't a real CX bike

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This is Zero Uno tubing, fully lugged and Reparto Corse built. They were only sold for two years and only as a frameset.



This is really wonderful.
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
I've been wanting a vintage cross bike for a while and when this Pinarello cross showed up in my size, I snapped it up. I haven't decided how I'm going to build it up yet (2 x 7 or 3 x 7). I've mocked it up with tires and it handles 32c clinchers comfortably. I may talk myself into buying some cross tubulars though as I know the ride will be plush and I have some quality tubular wheelsets sitting around. This is as the bike came to me in the "wild" with a bunch of OK but inexpensive Japanese gear. I think I'm going to build it up with suntour xc pro and command shifters.
If (when?) you do race cross with this bike I'd recommend 2X7.
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Alan Guerciotti

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Empella Turbo, another one, no original paint

Chr Jeucken/CJV, cx-rebuild with as base a Gitane road frame.
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Interesting rear brake placement. Is that to gain a little more tire clearance?
Or as an homage to Harry Hanoovian.
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CJV, Chr Jeucken build this 1981 in Venray, the Netherlands. I lived there those days, always great to see the bikes in his shop. Not only his own build but Gazelle, Colnago etcetera, grat stuff. This one is build now for ridin' sunday next week the Stalen Ros Turf Toertocht.



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I bought this Bianchi Tangent as a frame set few months ago, then went to searching for a donor bike. It was originally a drop bar bike, but I managed to find a high end hybrid as a donor, so the once CX bike became a hybrid. Does that make it less cool?

Ironically, the 2 year only Bianchi model got a 2 year only Shimano groupset (CX700). The crankset and front derailleur are XT due to compatibility differences.




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