Bad eBay experience today
12-08-20, 08:06 PM
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Bad eBay experience today
I watched an Ironman on eBay for 6 days. One bid at $75 with $100 shipping. Today was the day and I put a bid of $94 and won. I immediately payed and a few minutes later was reimbursed with a canceled sale. I questioned the seller and he stated it was no longer available , but I think it didn’t go for big bucks like he thought. I really hate how their is no integrity anymore. Rant over, thanks for listening.
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Originally Posted by sloar
I watched an Ironman on eBay for 6 days. One bid at $75 with $100 shipping. Today was the day and I put a bid of $94 and won. I immediately payed and a few minutes later was reimbursed with a canceled sale. I questioned the seller and he stated it was no longer available , but I think it didn’t go for big bucks like he thought. I really hate how their is no integrity anymore. Rant over, thanks for listening.
I try to blame absentmindedness before blaming malice.
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12-08-20, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sloar
I watched an Ironman on eBay for 6 days. One bid at $75 with $100 shipping. Today was the day and I put a bid of $94 and won. I immediately payed and a few minutes later was reimbursed with a canceled sale. I questioned the seller and he stated it was no longer available , but I think it didn’t go for big bucks like he thought. I really hate how their is no integrity anymore. Rant over, thanks for listening.
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12-08-20, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by noobinsf
I try to blame absentmindedness before blaming malice.
https://joplin.craigslist.org/bik/d/...240129489.html
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12-08-20, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by plonz
I think we’ll go with malice this time. Unless he forgot to take down his CL AND eBay listings
https://joplin.craigslist.org/bik/d/...240129489.html
https://joplin.craigslist.org/bik/d/...240129489.html
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Originally Posted by plonz
I think we’ll go with malice this time. Unless he forgot to take down his CL AND eBay listings
https://joplin.craigslist.org/bik/d/...240129489.html
https://joplin.craigslist.org/bik/d/...240129489.html
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Originally Posted by sloar
I watched an Ironman on eBay for 6 days. One bid at $75 with $100 shipping. Today was the day and I put a bid of $94 and won. I immediately payed and a few minutes later was reimbursed with a canceled sale. I questioned the seller and he stated it was no longer available , but I think it didn’t go for big bucks like he thought. I really hate how their is no integrity anymore. Rant over, thanks for listening.
When he relists, bid again.
When he cancels the sale again, leave negative feedback.
Rinse and repeat until the schmuck's falling DSR forces a decision.
Enjoy watching the seller play by policy the next time or watch as their username joins the club of opportunists who have gained a "no longer a registered user" badge.
-Kurt
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This happens all the time on Ebay. Just get past it and invest no more energy in the situation. I let this Legnano frame/fork set go for $38.00 CND ($29.70 US). I was tempted to cancel but integrity, once again, got in my way. Thirty bucks - geeze! That was the last time started an Ebay auction at one dollar...
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
This happens all the time on Ebay. Just get past it and invest no more energy in the situation. I let this Legnano frame/fork set go for $38.00 CND ($29.70 US). I was tempted to cancel but integrity, once again, got in my way. Thirty bucks - geeze! That was the last time started an Ebay auction at one dollar...
If not more....
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Originally Posted by sloar
Aha,thank you!
If he wasn't 3 hours away, I'd drive there with the promise of $400 and show up with $194.
There are other ways, but I hate handcuffs.
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12-09-20, 08:21 AM
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Yeah, happens all the time. Once he learns his lesson, he’ll start employing shill bidders to drive the price up.
These types of things will raise my hackles but I try to move on quickly. People with a shortage of integrity that do these types of things IMO likely lead fairly miserable lives so I just leave them to it.
These types of things will raise my hackles but I try to move on quickly. People with a shortage of integrity that do these types of things IMO likely lead fairly miserable lives so I just leave them to it.
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12-09-20, 10:52 AM
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In general, I feel like I'm better off not investing energy in dealing with shmucks. Which this seller appears to be. If the shmuck has somehow actually taken my moneys, then energy gets vigorously invested.
That said, I'd happily leave negative feedback if I could, including the fact that they're lying about item availability. Sellers can't leave neg feedback for buyers, so there's no risk to the buyer. I'm not sure you can leave negative feedback for a canceled sale, though?
"Says item not available, but on CL at higher price" Something like that? Just to get the word out to other potential bidders/buyers that the seller isn't trustworthy.
If I wanted to ignore my schmuck-investing rule and f around with them, it'd involve getting them to show up with the bike to ghost buyers, contact them with lots of scam offers, etc. But that'd involve burner phones and email accts. Sounds both kinda fun and not worth the energy at the same time.
That said, I'd happily leave negative feedback if I could, including the fact that they're lying about item availability. Sellers can't leave neg feedback for buyers, so there's no risk to the buyer. I'm not sure you can leave negative feedback for a canceled sale, though?
"Says item not available, but on CL at higher price" Something like that? Just to get the word out to other potential bidders/buyers that the seller isn't trustworthy.
If I wanted to ignore my schmuck-investing rule and f around with them, it'd involve getting them to show up with the bike to ghost buyers, contact them with lots of scam offers, etc. But that'd involve burner phones and email accts. Sounds both kinda fun and not worth the energy at the same time.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I would have gone at least $43.50.
If not more....
If not more....
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I had a seller do the same thing to me last week, but when I went to leave feedback, it wouldn't let me because the transaction was cancelled. I think it depends on how the seller ends the sale.
The seller relisted the item nearly instantly but it got taken down in a matter of hours and now that seller is "No Longer a Registered User".
I had won a few things from them before, both times using Auction Sniper to bid. Both times I got a nasty message tossed in with the item noting their displeasure with the sale price. (I was the only bidder in both cases). The one package included a long letter saying how using an auction sniping tool was the same as theft because it didn't give him a chance to remove the item before I 'stole' it. The same seller had the same item both listed in a Buy it now listing and another in an auction format. It sold for a dollar less in the auction format with the same free shipping.
I've been buying on eBay for 20+ years now, most transactions were just fine, but its the handful of screwballs that really stand out when I look back. Most of the bad experiences have been of late, in the past few years. In the beginning, once eBay took hold in the late 90's it was great, it started downhill around 2008 or so and has slid into the mess it is now. with thousands of offshore sellers seemingly running the show.
The seller relisted the item nearly instantly but it got taken down in a matter of hours and now that seller is "No Longer a Registered User".
I had won a few things from them before, both times using Auction Sniper to bid. Both times I got a nasty message tossed in with the item noting their displeasure with the sale price. (I was the only bidder in both cases). The one package included a long letter saying how using an auction sniping tool was the same as theft because it didn't give him a chance to remove the item before I 'stole' it. The same seller had the same item both listed in a Buy it now listing and another in an auction format. It sold for a dollar less in the auction format with the same free shipping.
I've been buying on eBay for 20+ years now, most transactions were just fine, but its the handful of screwballs that really stand out when I look back. Most of the bad experiences have been of late, in the past few years. In the beginning, once eBay took hold in the late 90's it was great, it started downhill around 2008 or so and has slid into the mess it is now. with thousands of offshore sellers seemingly running the show.
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There's a shop in NYC that always gets cool fixed gear frames that does that constantly. He'll sell the same frame or bike 4 or 5 times in 2 months. I've learned to recognize his backgrounds and not even look at his stuff anymore.
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I've been on both sides of this in the not-so-distant past.
Like Randy and pcb said, it's usually best to invest no more time into it.
And contrary to certain comments, I'm inclined to be cooler than usual unless malice is evident. We're in a pandemic and we should be good to each other when we can.
Like Randy and pcb said, it's usually best to invest no more time into it.
And contrary to certain comments, I'm inclined to be cooler than usual unless malice is evident. We're in a pandemic and we should be good to each other when we can.
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12-09-20, 01:00 PM
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It doesn't stop amusing me. The rage for sellers asking a high price is equal the rage for sellers not wanting to accept a low ball.
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12-09-20, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylansbob
There's a shop in NYC that always gets cool fixed gear frames that does that constantly. He'll sell the same frame or bike 4 or 5 times in 2 months. I've learned to recognize his backgrounds and not even look at his stuff anymore.
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I’m over it, I did leave a negative feedback and let him know that I saw the cl ad. I don’t really care about not getting the bike it’s just the way some people are that bothers me.
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12-09-20, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
This happens all the time on Ebay. Just get past it and invest no more energy in the situation. I let this Legnano frame/fork set go for $38.00 CND ($29.70 US). I was tempted to cancel but integrity, once again, got in my way. Thirty bucks - geeze! That was the last time started an Ebay auction at one dollar...
12-09-20, 04:15 PM
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It's not just Ebay. I've been through the same thing on this board more than once.
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My brother, having never used Ebay in his life, ended up selling a cool vintage outboard motor for $1. His defense (to me telling him he was a doughnut) was that Ebay's directions suggested starting the bidding at 99 cents. Of course he honored the sale (and thought he was obligated to do so), and the buyer was actually pretty cool and gave him $100 when he came to pick it up.
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