Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Crescent VarldsmastarCykein Vintage

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Crescent VarldsmastarCykein Vintage

Old 12-29-20, 05:24 PM
  #1  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Crescent VarldsmastarCykein Vintage

As a Swede, my fathers side, i was always Curious to own A Crescent bike. This company started out in USA and then for some reason moved to Sweden. This is a Crescent VarldsmasterCykein modeled on World Champions Bikes by this Company. This is (i believe) an early 50's bike and its one piece crank is quite unique in Racing Bikes to this brand. I saw this last week on the face book market place and decided to purchase it. 100 included the frame, fork head set, crank set bottom bracket and pedals along with the seat post. A complete company team version of this bike is for sale at Steel-vintage.com it shows a French ensemble. I will be looking for similar parts to complete this bike. My swedish side is looking forward to getting this going again.
beautiful day to buy a bike! from Oakland. Santa was late arriving and perhaps stopped over in las Vegas


One piece crank set

Note no shifter Boss on left side.

Last edited by madscrambler; 12-30-20 at 11:37 AM. Reason: error
madscrambler is offline  
Likes For madscrambler:
Old 12-29-20, 05:45 PM
  #2  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
i will measure it tomorrow i am just getting started.

Last edited by madscrambler; 12-29-20 at 05:52 PM.
madscrambler is offline  
Old 12-29-20, 06:27 PM
  #3  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 11,880
Mentioned: 329 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2876 Post(s)
Liked 1,447 Times in 1,057 Posts
-----

chainset either Briga or Fauber

pedals appear they may be Phillips Apollo, from the UK -




bottom bracket thread may be metric ("french") 35.0 X 1.0mm

steerer and other frame tubes should be BSC

drive train could have been derailleur three, four or five speed

suspect OEM gear ensemble would have been Freres Huret

member @styggno1 shall be able to offer lots of assistance


MCB factory located in Varberg, image from 1956:




in case you have not as yet discovered it there is a Swedish cycle forum which abides here -

Forums - CykelForum.se

at the time of this product the firm also was a producer of mopeds

manufacturer catalogue of 1951 -

https://www.raketsport.com/cyklar_51.htm

-----

Last edited by juvela; 12-29-20 at 09:54 PM. Reason: add image
juvela is offline  
Likes For juvela:
Old 12-30-20, 04:32 AM
  #4  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,910
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 714 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 747 Times in 450 Posts
There is a wrinkle in the image of the top headset race - if it is real it needs investigating.
oneclick is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 05:58 AM
  #5  
reconnaissance
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 130

Bikes: Trek 850, Trek 510, Cannondale 300m, Specialized Rockhopper, Stumpjumper, Bianchi Virata

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked 96 Times in 33 Posts
Originally Posted by oneclick View Post
There is a wrinkle in the image of the top headset race - if it is real it needs investigating.
It’s a flat spot due to denting.
reconnaissance is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 07:05 AM
  #6  
Prowler 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Near Pottstown, PA: 30 miles NW of Philadelphia
Posts: 1,959

Bikes: 2 Trek Mtn, Cannondale R600 road, 6 vintage road bikes

Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 399 Post(s)
Liked 578 Times in 278 Posts
Congratulations. Nice historic bike. Mine is a 1974 92319 made in Varberg. I'm Carolina dirt farmer but my father-in-law was Swedish. Not why I bought the bike but it's a nice connection. I REALLY like my bike.

IIRC Crescent did not move to Sweden. Crescent was a very large and successful Chicago based company through the first US bike boom but when that boom collapsed so did Crescent. Before they did, Sweden was one of their largest export markets*. The Stockholm importers obtained a license to make the bikes in country and when the Chicago firm closed the folks in Stockholm just continued.

I find it pretty cool that the basic headbadge design from the start has continued to this day, something like 130 years now. Minor adjustments but fundamentally the same. Good luck with yours. Lucky guy.

* I've read that Crescent was the first bicycle manufacturer to have sufficient production that they filled rail cars with bikes and shipped them to the east coast for further distribution and export. I've heard that the quantities exported to Sweden were quite large.
Prowler is offline  
Likes For Prowler:
Old 12-30-20, 11:42 AM
  #7  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Thanks juvela as always.
madscrambler is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 11:47 AM
  #8  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Oneclick
for some reason because of sun angle the pictures became wavy like the tubes were pretzels. I had to select pictures where this was less of a problem. I like our sunny winter day however!
madscrambler is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 11:49 AM
  #9  
Reynolds 
Passista
 
Reynolds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,367

Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 791 Post(s)
Liked 490 Times in 279 Posts
Nice and unusual (at least for me) bike.
Reynolds is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 12:40 PM
  #10  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,910
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 714 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 747 Times in 450 Posts
Originally Posted by madscrambler View Post
Oneclick
for some reason because of sun angle the pictures became wavy like the tubes were pretzels. I had to select pictures where this was less of a problem. I like our sunny winter day however!
I though that might have been the case - there is a similar (though smaller) distortion in one of the images of the headbadge.
oneclick is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 01:31 PM
  #11  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Vintage-Steel had these comments about a very similar bike they have for sale "Crescent was founded as a cycling brand in Chicago in the 1890s. But it was when a Swedish company started to import them, that the future of this brand took an unexpected turn.

At first Crescent was sold as a budget alternative for people who were looking for a reliable bike with a choice of quality parts.
But some years later Crescent as a brand and its production was completely moved to Sweden, where also a some road bikes were made.

In 1912 the legendary olympic cyclist Henrik Morén established a new 24 hour record and did so on a Crescent bike. A feat which suddenly made the brand famous on an international scale.
And more triumphs should follow in the decades to come: 1928 Henry Hansen won a gold medal in the Olympic Games and in 1931 he was triumphant at the world championships.
The world championships proved to be a good event for Crescent bikes to shine. In 1948 Harry Snell won the title on an orange bike from Sweden. The colour had become iconic and was typical for Crescent bikes by this time.
It was after this Victory that Crescent marketed their racing machines as world champions bikes 'Världsmästarcykeln'. "

Last edited by madscrambler; 12-30-20 at 01:32 PM. Reason: add photo
madscrambler is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 06:01 PM
  #12  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 11,880
Mentioned: 329 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2876 Post(s)
Liked 1,447 Times in 1,057 Posts
-----

as you probably recall our local MCB stockist was Stone's on the island

do not know who has been taking care of things there since Dennis' passing

you could bring the frame by as a conversation piece/ice breaker and see if the person has any MCB knowledge

at the desk in the back of the shop there is a good supply of MCB dealer materials
do not know how far back they go; perhaps there may be nothing earlier than late 1960's; worth a check in any event

these materials go into far more detail than anything available to the general public so represent a valuable resource for the researcher

if you have not paid any attention to it previously you might like to see Dennis' personal copper plated model 320

iirc as part of the shop's permanent holdings there is also an example of the inox model which was offered

last time seen the shop hours were rather limited so you would want to check with them first

-----

Last edited by juvela; 12-30-20 at 08:38 PM. Reason: addition
juvela is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 06:11 PM
  #13  
xiaoman1 
Awaiting Parole
 
xiaoman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Weird Coast City of the Angels
Posts: 4,493

Bikes: A few too many

Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1085 Post(s)
Liked 1,439 Times in 785 Posts
I really like mine and the color and the head badge IMHO are standouts.
Enjoy the build.
Best, Ben
__________________
"STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT EVEN IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE STANDING"
Voice recognition may sometimes create odd spelling and grammatical errors

xiaoman1 is online now  
Old 12-30-20, 06:12 PM
  #14  
BFisher
Senior Member
 
BFisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,188
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 704 Post(s)
Liked 1,626 Times in 781 Posts
That is one of the coolest one piece cranks I've ever seen.
BFisher is offline  
Likes For BFisher:
Old 12-30-20, 08:24 PM
  #15  
3alarmer 
Friendship is Magic
 
3alarmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Big Tomato
Posts: 20,565

Bikes: old ones

Mentioned: 292 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23351 Post(s)
Liked 6,771 Times in 4,848 Posts
.
...this is, I believe, the longest thread on Bikeforums with information and photos of Fauber cranks.
3alarmer is offline  
Old 12-30-20, 09:58 PM
  #16  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Thanks for your comments and the link. I can say that the 1 piece crank set and bottom bracket are of top quality.
madscrambler is offline  
Old 12-31-20, 06:21 PM
  #17  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Juvela was right pedals are Made in England. The name is Brampton. The reflectors are very high quality and appear to be nordic ? in origin name for them appears to be: Dennekant UDAD.
madscrambler is offline  
Old 01-01-21, 02:26 PM
  #18  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 11,880
Mentioned: 329 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2876 Post(s)
Liked 1,447 Times in 1,057 Posts
Originally Posted by madscrambler View Post
Juvela was right pedals are Made in England. The name is Brampton. The reflectors are very high quality and appear to be nordic ? in origin name for them appears to be: Dennekant UDAD.
-----

verily, there must be a career awaiting madscrambler in the field of diplomacy!

i got the brand name of the pedals incorrect

i got the model name of the pedals incorrect

yet he writes that i was "right"

if he were working at the United Nations he might be helping to avoid wars...

---

first pink Fauber chainset encountered -



Fauber lapel pin -




---

history -

this forum post gives an english translation of a swedish timeline history for MCB

it begins with Nymans Verkstader, makers of a marque called Hermes but stay with it as it gets to Monark/Crescent/MCB in due course...

AB nymans verkstader (upsala) hermes

post is part of this discussion thread covering a Hermes badged machine -

AB nymans verkstader (upsala) hermes

-----
juvela is offline  
Old 01-01-21, 07:01 PM
  #19  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
however you got the country of origin of the pedal correct.
madscrambler is offline  
Old 01-01-21, 07:36 PM
  #20  
Insidious C. 
Crash Test Dummy
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: PNW
Posts: 1,412

Bikes: One of everything and three of everything French

Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 376 Post(s)
Liked 210 Times in 131 Posts
The identical (to my eyes at least) pedal sometimes is marked Phillips, sometimes Brampton, sometimes no marking on pedal at all.
__________________
I.C.
Insidious C. is offline  
Old 01-09-21, 02:07 PM
  #21  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Crank back side and update


This is a shot of the back of the one piece crank note the Slugs that hold the pedal to the crank one on each side.
I have measured the Pedal shaft length and it is 17.4625 c approximately Center of pedal to center of the Crank. I measured my Campi 170 the same way it came to be 16.828 c. This is an adult sized crank.

On the Handle bars it is a Titan M.Kint, A. Schotte and S. Maes. It is one from before 1970 because the lettering on the Bar is read from the pilots position. The names of the Sponsored Athletes and their arrangement will allow further refinement on the handle bar date. After 1970 the lettering can be read from the front of the Bike. I need the Titan Stem and it is an odd size 27c one of the largest and that Sheldon lists as obsolete. Any one have one of these laying around?

I will be looking for a 3 or 4 speed cog freewheel for fitting to a French hub to go with the Simplex JUY 543 rear derailer that i have. Brakes are also needed and french as well as Juvela suggested. The derailer is an expensive item and i got it for another bike i have but now it is repurposed to the Crescent Build. the Stem; brakes and wheel set are needed. The Handle bar stem will be the greatest challenge as the size is larger than other vintage french stems.

Last edited by madscrambler; 01-09-21 at 02:18 PM. Reason: spelling
madscrambler is offline  
Old 01-10-21, 12:09 AM
  #22  
juvela
Senior Member
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 11,880
Mentioned: 329 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2876 Post(s)
Liked 1,447 Times in 1,057 Posts
-----

thread needs vistation from member non-fixie for TITAN stem/bar information


-----
juvela is offline  
Old 01-10-21, 05:27 AM
  #23  
non-fixie 
Shifting is fun!
 
non-fixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 10,195

Bikes: Yes, please.

Mentioned: 260 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1880 Post(s)
Liked 2,600 Times in 1,143 Posts
Originally Posted by juvela View Post
-----

thread needs vistation from member non-fixie for TITAN stem/bar information


-----
Roland Buyssens of Tielt, Belgium began making aluminum bars in the 1930's. The "Maes-Kint" model for road use, the "G.Derycke" model for track applications. Sylveer Maes had won the Tour de France in 1936 (and '39) and Marcel Kint was the 1938 World Champion.

I notice that Rik Van Steenbergen's name is missing in the description, while Briek Schotte's is present, which would probably date it around 1950. Schotte became World Champion in 1948 (and '50) and Van Steenbergen in 1949 (as well as in '56 and '57), after which their names would be added to the bars.

You may find a two-digit date (year) code on the sleeve.
__________________
Woo hoo!









non-fixie is offline  
Likes For non-fixie:
Old 01-10-21, 05:32 PM
  #24  
madscrambler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Berkeley ca
Posts: 102

Bikes: '71 Raligh Pro , 1956 Sport; 1895 Victor standard, Bertin 1950's racer.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 8 Posts
this is the logo on the bar; below is a stamped number 8 seen on bottom of the bar below the logo- Is that the date stamp?

Last edited by madscrambler; 01-10-21 at 05:36 PM. Reason: add comments
madscrambler is offline  
Old 08-30-21, 07:45 PM
  #25  
tallbikeman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Yolo County, West Sacramento CA
Posts: 470

Bikes: Modified 26 inch frame Schwinn Varsity with 700c wheels and 10 speed cassette hub. Ryan Vanguard recumbent. 67cm 27"x1 1/4" Schwinn Sports Tourer from the 1980's. 1980's 68cm Nishiki Sebring with 700c aero wheels, 30 speeds, flat bar bicycle.

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 119 Post(s)
Liked 126 Times in 90 Posts
Originally Posted by madscrambler View Post
this is the logo on the bar; below is a stamped number 8 seen on bottom of the bar below the logo- Is that the date stamp?
How is this build going?
tallbikeman is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.