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Old 01-12-21, 11:22 PM
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Where's the original?

Or what's the original? And what's the copy? Is the copy just as good? Is the copy better for some reason? Like you're now free from worry of damaging the original? Or is everything pretty much a copy at this point?

To you, what's the original?

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Old 01-12-21, 11:41 PM
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some initiatory context, please ?
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Old 01-13-21, 03:43 AM
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There's a lot that can go on between some people's ears between pedal strokes.
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Old 01-13-21, 04:05 AM
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this should be over in the buddhist forum. is there a buddhist forum? if not, why? should there be? and, if there was, would there really be anyone posting there? if so, and no one was there to read it, did you really make a post?
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is there a buddhist forum?
The Buddhist forum exists in your mind.
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Old 01-13-21, 06:39 AM
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How about George Washington's axe? Original?
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Old 01-13-21, 06:41 AM
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Screw the original; I’m looking for the real McCoy.
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Old 01-13-21, 07:05 AM
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This hammer is an heirloom. The head has been replaced twice and the handle three times. That is how old it is.
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Old 01-13-21, 07:26 AM
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Old 01-13-21, 07:27 AM
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This hammer is an heirloom. The head has been replaced twice and the handle three times. That is how old it is.
Yes, that's the legendary "George Washington's axe" alluded to above.

In the case of either that axe or the posited hammer, the original part would be the wedge that secures head to handle.
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Old 01-13-21, 07:49 AM
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Screw the original; I’m looking for the real McCoy.
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Old 01-13-21, 08:38 AM
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Original, Famous, Original Famous, Extra Crispy, or Origin 8?

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Adam & Eve.
The rest of us are just copies.
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Original, Famous, Original Famous, Extra Crispy, or Origin 8?
My copy of a René Herse has an Origin8 bottom bracket in it.

It is superior to the original because it has a cassette and an XTR rear derailleur, and I'm not afraid to ruin it by hooning around the dunes. But it's also inferior: in spite of all the tech (not even MounTech!), it's somehow not as lightweight as the original.

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Or what's the original? And what's the copy? Is the copy just as good? Is the copy better for some reason? Like you're now free from worry of damaging the original? Or is everything pretty much a copy at this point?

To you, what's the original?

#picsoritdidn'thappen
And what about the copy of the copy?
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Meminish schmeminish...
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Originally Posted by P!N20 View Post
The Buddhist forum exists in your mind.
#picordidithappen??

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Old 01-13-21, 11:22 AM
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And what about the copy of the copy?
That never works. Didn't you see "Multiplicity" with Michael Keaton?

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That never works. Didn't you see "Multiplicity" with Michael Keaton?
Someone had to pull a few mattes for that. Too bad they couldn't get the sofa right under blue shirt Michael.

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