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Old 02-05-21, 06:30 PM
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Broken Nishki Frame

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Not sure if this is the correct forum but here it is...a couple of months ago, my older Nishiki International frame broke when I was riding. I was hoping that I could get a replacement frame of some type, since the frame has a lifetime warranty. However, the Nishiki brand has been bought and sold a couple of times since I bought my bike and Dicks Sporting Goods is the only company I could find that sells bikes under the Nishiki name. But, like many companies do when these situations arise, they refused to honor the warranty, because I didnít but the bike from them. The questions are; does anyone know an upper level contact at Dicks Sporting Goods that I could plead my case; and/or does anyone have any realistic ideas on how to proceed from here?
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Old 02-05-21, 06:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure Nishiki was part of Norco. Maybe try contacting them?

Is it a lugged steel frame? In all honesty I dont think you'd have much luck getting it replaced. On the plus side, if it's lugged, should be easily repairable.

How did jt break? You mind explaining or showing us a pic?
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Old 02-05-21, 08:01 PM
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Nishiki was a bicycle brand owned and sold by West Coast Cycle, which was absorbed by Raleigh USA in the '80s. Can't tell you who owns it now but I'd wager that warranty is no longer honored by the current owners. Sorry. You might find a decent used one somewhere. What size frame is yours?

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"As of 2010, Nishiki-branded bicycles, manufactured by Accell Group were available for sale again in the U.S. at Dick's Sporting Goods. Dick's had obtained licensing rights to the Nishiki Bike brand in the U.S."
Good luck. Honest.
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Old 02-05-21, 09:10 PM
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What year was your bike made? I don't think lifetime warranty applied to all years.I think I might have seen a catalog page that said 25 years, and another one "Limited lifetime warranty".
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Old 02-05-21, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moisture View Post
I'm pretty sure Nishiki was part of Norco. Maybe try contacting them?

Is it a lugged steel frame? In all honesty I dont think you'd have much luck getting it replaced. On the plus side, if it's lugged, should be easily repairable.

How did jt break? You mind explaining or showing us a pic?
I have owned a few, and still have two, early 80's steel framed Nishiki road bikes that say "Designed by Norco" on the left chain stay.
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Old 02-06-21, 05:16 AM
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What's broken on the frame? I don't see how you're going to get it warrantied. I'm sure Dick's didn't assume the liabilities of the brand.
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Old 02-06-21, 11:31 PM
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I was just riding my normal circuit and the bike had a wobble that was unusual. I stopped a couple of times, but nothing looked out of place, no wheel or tire issues - nothing obvious. I was stopped at a light, and got up out of the saddle, did a few revs and CLUNK. Luckily I was in a bike lane with a curb/sidewalk. At first I could see it, then I saw the down tube completely broken in two. I'll upload a photo of the break in one of my other answers.
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Old 02-07-21, 12:07 AM
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The serial number on the bottom bracket is KB 08556. Based on another forum, it seems to indicate the frame was built in 1982,
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Old 02-07-21, 12:50 AM
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Yikes! Glad you weren't seriously injured.
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Originally Posted by Moisture View Post
...On the plus side, if it's lugged, should be easily repairable...
Lugged steel frames are not easy to repair at all in most cases, at least not easy as in cheap.
Replacing a main tube is a big job.
Repainting to decent standards is also somewhat difficult/costly.

Certain repairs are much more worthy of consideration than others but only IF the frame is worth more than a couple of hundred dollars.
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Old 02-07-21, 04:11 AM
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Thats terrifying. Do you ride the bike hard or over bad surfaces? How much do you weigh? I'm curious how this happened, because my 1980 norco is a very similar design. Concerning.
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Old 02-07-21, 05:32 AM
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Good thing it wasn’t made from carbon fiber.
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Glad youíre ok, that type of failure at speed would have been very dangerous if not fatal. That said, it doesnít look repairable without a fair amount of money and repaint after a full tube replacement. Was the bike ever in a front end collision? The location high up near the head lug suggests a stress there that was unseen or rust under a cable guide or shifter clamp.

what size us the frame?
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Old 02-07-21, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by smkpool View Post
I was hoping that I could get a replacement frame of some type, since the frame has a lifetime warranty.
Did you purchase the bike when it was new? If so, do you have a receipt?
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Warranties can vary depending on the market and era. That's a USA market serial number from 1982, so the bicycle is either a 1982 or 1983 model. While I don't have a 1982 USA catalogue, both 1981 and 1983 USA catalogues indicate 25 year warranties. Consequently, the warranty period was almost certainly the same for 1982 and the frame is well beyond it's warranty period.
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Looks like a classic "Can opener" failure. The point on the bottom lug was sharp and over the years of braking, it flexed into downtube and started a crack. Then the crack propagated until the whole tube failed. There was a great write up on this in one of the old Rivendell Readers.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
Did you purchase the bike when it was new? If so, do you have a receipt?
Yes, I'm the original owner purchased in 1983 possibly '84. No, the receipts and anything else that may have come with the bike have been lost in the file cabinets of time. Besides, I would have never thought a frame would break.
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Yes, I'm the original owner purchased in 1983 possibly '84. No, the receipts and anything else that may have come with the bike have been lost in the file cabinets of time. Besides, I would have never thought a frame would break.
Based on the info that T-Mar posted, you're at least 10 years past the 25 year warranty period. I suggest looking for a used frame to move your components over onto instead of seeking a warranty replacement.
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Originally Posted by Moisture View Post
Thats terrifying. Do you ride the bike hard or over bad surfaces? How much do you weigh? I'm curious how this happened, because my 1980 norco is a very similar design. Concerning.
In 36/37 years of riding, no major crashes - lucky me:-) I've been side-swipped a couple of times and went down hard with some bruised ribs and road rash, but the bike has been straight arrow up until the break. And of course, I've fallen a number times from losing focus on railroad tracks, loose gravel, etc. Frankly, I've never even heard of a bike frame break, unless it's been in a crash. Currently I'm a bit heavy at 195lbs and 5'8", but early on about 170.
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Ohh, it was probably nobody's fault it broke. Just life. Contact Yellow Jersey in Madison and Franklin Frame in Ohio, they might surprise you with the price to replace a tube.

Wonder if the top tube got bent enough in the failure to also need replacing...
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Time to upgrade. That bike did well.
or find a replacement frame on eBay and move all components over if you want. Thatís what I would do.
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Time to upgrade. That bike did well.
or find a replacement frame on eBay and move all components over if you want. Thatís what I would do.
Here's one: https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bo...271987746.html
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I believe that the OP is in the Bay Area. If so, here is a replacement candidate.

Nishiki road bike frame - $95 (san jose west)

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bop...271227158.html

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Wow! That's a shocker of a down tube fracture on a steel frame! Good news that you were lucky and avoided serious injury! Agreed that best course is to shop for a replacement frameset so what size frame is your size? And one thought: some other JP-made frames also used the top-mount Suntour "pod", including Miyata and Univega. I would suggest you include those brands in the search.
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