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Old 02-15-21, 09:37 AM
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I call everything that I like with a bit of age on it classic. I don't like calling my beautiful older racing bikes vintage. I reserve vintage for wine only.
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Dropper posts are not Vintage - and eliminate any chance for Classic.
Adjustable stems will never be Classic.
A bento box attached to top tube with bosses is not Vintage or Classic.
Radially spoked wheels are not Vintage, can't be tied and soldered.

Cycling caps are cool. Whatever that adds.

this thread needs more pics.

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Old 02-15-21, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
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Adjustable stems will never be Classic.
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except for the ones that were...
The T.T.T. is an example.



I think that this was also sold under the Ambrosio name?? Did T.T.T. buy Ambrosio, or did Ambrosio just change their name?
or am I imagining this?

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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Radially spoked wheels are not Vintage, can't be tied and soldered.

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Old 02-15-21, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
Dropper posts are not Vintage - and eliminate any chance for Classic.
From 1984:

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Old 02-15-21, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
except for the ones that were...
The T.T.T. is an example.



I think that this was also sold under the Ambrosio name?? Did T.T.T. buy Ambrosio, or did Ambrosio just change their name?
or am I imagining this?

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Don't remember seeing any Ambrosio-labeled equivalents, but the AS-1 adjustable stem pictured at the bottom came stock on the Helyett Speciale track bike my parents bought for me in 1964.

[Edit] here's an Ambrosio adjustable stem:

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Originally Posted by sced View Post
I reserve vintage for wine only.
I hear ya, but it's hard for me to call my box cab any vintage. I mean I like it ... a lot...

I like classic rock and classic cars. When the loud, obnoxious fan in the stands falls on his face, that can be classic. My bikes though, they're vintage.

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Old 02-15-21, 06:13 PM
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I'm not vintage or a classic
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Old 02-15-21, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak View Post
Don't remember seeing any Ambrosio-labeled equivalents, but the AS-1 adjustable stem pictured at the bottom came stock on the Helyett Speciale track bike my parents bought for me in 1964.

[Edit] here's an Ambrosio adjustable stem:
neat! I always thought it would be handy to have one of these adjustable stems when setting up a new bike.
Thanks for digging up the shot of the Ambrosio stem too. Nice to know that I'm not just dreaming this stuff up.

I dug through my pics from one of the Classic Rendezvous gathering and found shots of each version of the TTT adjustable stem. Definitely on some classy vintage bikes!

The first is a Jack Taylor. Lovely curved seat tube for a shorter wheelbase.



and a really slick stop watch for timing yourself on time trials....



the second is a Gillot path racer






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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
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Cycling caps are cool. Whatever that adds.

this thread needs more pics.
Uhmmmm...... yes,........ if you have the right size head for it. Otherwise they look mostly silly on an XL melon like mine.......
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Vintage is having to spend considerably more than when it was new.

Old is spending considerably less.

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Old 02-15-21, 09:52 PM
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- any decal/sticker with a hologram (far from the line)
- black anodized aluminium (not so far)
Raleigh Chopper.
Cannondale Black Lightning.

Next!

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Black anodized stems finished 1/2 in the 1987 Tour de France.

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Old 02-15-21, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak View Post
From 1984:

You'll wack yourself in the nuts with your seat if you're not careful!
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Old 02-16-21, 12:01 AM
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Any bike that came without braze on's for cable guides is vintage. If it came stock with suntour friction it's vintage.
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Old 02-16-21, 02:01 AM
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My subjective line ends in 1988 with the end of Suntour (also my birth year). If I'm older than the bike, It's not vintage!

Classic extends to the end of the Grant Petersen era of Bridgestone.

I'm sure someone will provide a counter example and I'll have to adjust my criteria.
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