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Old 05-27-21, 01:08 PM
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Maybe marketing in the comparison of Eroica to Cino? That and the monkey see, monkey do effect? "Gotta do it 'cause everyone else is."

All I can say is that this Cino ride really sounds like a great time, and this is from a guy that doesn't do group rides. When I see the volume of people in photos from Eroica, long lines waiting for stuff, no thanks.
But Cino seems like much more fun from what I've gathered here. I have seriously considered trying to make this happen, but the logistics and cost are just too much for me at this time. It would be fun to meet the rest of the C&V crowd there.
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Which brings up a point that I don't understand.

In Wisconsin, the HHH was the first challenge ride (10,000 climbing in 100 miles) in the driftless area. Horrible rest stops. Cyclists are hammerheads just looking for a personal best. Sells out every year. I think they are on a lottery system. Stu, not much liking the attitude of the cyclists and horrible rest stops, starts the DD as an alternative challenge ride in the driftless area. Makes a great atmosphere and rest stops. Never sold out, ever.

Cino I think limits to 150, but I doubt they would get much more than that. Eroica CA, while doesn't sell out, certainly flirts with 1000 riders who are continually wringing their hands about gearing, what to wear, what bike to ride, covid, you name it.

So why do the crappy rides do well and the good rides do crappy?
Because people generally behave like sheep. If everyone is doing it it must be good, huh? Get in line.

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Cino draws me in precisely because it is small and remote, it attracts GREAT people, has amazing food, a challenging route and a funky laid back atmosphere that never takes itself too seriously..
Careful though, ride it once and you're likely to find yourself plotting to come back next year where it will feel more like a family reunion.
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I know it would be more Cino if I rode my bike from Oregon to Montana, but I will probably opt to drive my still-pretty-Cino beat up 1996 Nissan Pathfinder, 5-speed manual tranny (the auto world equivalent of friction shifting?). I could probably pick up any (limit one) stray maniacs on-route. But my time is flexible—I've got plenty of it, so those constrained by work commitments may have a less leisurely schedule, and therefore wouldn't work for them.
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Originally Posted by northbend View Post
Because people generally behave like sheep. If everyone is doing it it must be good, huh? Get in line.
Nobody rides it anymore. Too crowded.
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Old 05-27-21, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
I just checked and Southwest currently offers a decent under $400 round trip from NH to Spokane, WA. My issue would be that my only current bike which is easily packable and fits in a suitcase as checked luggage is this;


While it is steel, and I friction shift from barends, it's not very Cino.
friction, steel, a certain style and brooks sprung saddle seem to hit a lot of qualifications
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
friction, steel, a certain style and brooks sprung saddle seem to hit a lot of qualifications
I'd need to swap out the SPD pedals for cages and straps!

I wish I could come this year. But that weekend is about a month before I retire and I doubt the church members would let me take the weekend off!

northbend the dapper gentleman on the Moulton is certainly heroic!
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Got all the parts in or on order.....may not end up as super clean and elegant (mix of 105, deore, rx100, mega range) as I would like (anyone have aluminium 175 triple crankset ?) but will end up with 52-42-30 and 13-34 gearing

plan is survive this one and then go back to 53/39 13-28 on the next one
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Got all the parts in or on order.....may not end up as super clean and elegant...
It's just gonna get dirty and thrashed anyway, haha. Same here—found a wheelset, gonna have gugie spread the rear stays from 123mm to 126mm, found a 26.4 seatpost, Simplex SX610 rear derailleur, Simplex Retrofriction shifters, and compact double Stronglight 99 crankset from romperrr. Still need a stem and bars. Probably just use my MKS Sylvans for pedals (might even attach toe clips!).
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From the Cino website:Cino is not the perfect tool for the job, for a variety of reasons. It looks better than the perfect tool for the job; it’s harder to use, its more classic, its older, its more unique–somehow, you just rather have it than the perfect tool for the job. The perfect tool for the job is, well–its just not very cino that’s all.”

P1030112 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

P1030101 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

P1030108 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr


P1030047 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

2012 Cino 10 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

2012 Cino 15 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

P1030435 by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

Don’t over think it but do make sure to check your brake cables, tighten your headsets and chainring bolts!

Repairs are made by Matthew Pendergast, on Flickr

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Originally Posted by northbend View Post
That's the fast guy's bike, right?
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
That's the fast guy's bike, right?
Yea, Eric Greenberg (the guy in the red jersey on the right). Usually is the 1st one to Hot Springs.
Here he is in 2013 at the town line beer stop when he took a wrong turn and ended up riding an extra 20 miles still arriving before the bulk of the riders had finished.
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Old 05-28-21, 04:47 PM
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I remember riding next to Ross - that was a challenging year for him, but he made it! I think that was also the year it rained, so he was perfectly equipped with fenders!! The next year he rode, wait for it... a Ross!
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Originally Posted by northbend View Post
Don’t over think it but do make sure to check your brake cables, tighten your headsets and chainring bolts!
Take this to heart. The first time that I rode Cino I lost 3 chainring bolts on the first day.....and that was on a bike that had at least 100 miles on BLM roads so it had seen roughness. Thankfully Spokane Dave had a bunch of spare parts and I was able to find some new bolts.
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Where did you source those cranks?
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Where did you source those cranks?
They're not original to the bike. They're Nervar 631/633 cranks:

VeloBase.com - Component: Nervar 631/633 (5-pin, alloy, type 1)

They're 50.4 bcd cranks so you can go as low as 26 on the inside. TA and the stronglight 49d also are 50.4 bcd cranks.

They're used so you need to find a parts donor, eBay, or put up a WTB on the C&V for sale forum. They're great cranks if you want to run a "compact" double on a vintag bike.
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They're Nervar 631/633 cranks:
Oh yeah I forgot about those. Those are in nice shape I like the relief pattern.
You're right only took half an hour found a couple candidates but also discovered I can buy new even a bb to fit my Italian bb from TA direct.
Would like an old crank but will go new to get my cr combo and may cave and buy new arms if I decide I really want 172.5.
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Just so everyone’s reassured, the bureaucracy is churning so I can get the registration up and running. We’re still a go!!
Hey Dave, any updates on the registration? Will it be at cinorider.com, or a different URL? Still hoping to attend, got parts arriving for the PX10 from 'round the world.
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Hey Dave, any updates on the registration? Will it be at cinorider.com, or a different URL? Still hoping to attend, got parts arriving for the PX10 from 'round the world.
The registration will be through Eventbrite, but links will also be on the cinorider website. The page is almost built. I last used it two years ago and I’d like to say it’s like riding a bike, but it’s more like learning to ride all over again.
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The registration will be through Eventbrite, but links will also be on the cinorider website. The page is almost built. I last used it two years ago and I’d like to say it’s like riding a bike, but it’s more like learning to ride all over again.
Ah yes, I get that. Every time I have to update our Shopify website, I deal with the same thing. Doesn't help when they completely change the way everything works. Thanks!
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Cino Registration is OPEN!
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/cino-20...n-158682578865
Come and get it folks!
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Thanks for the post, @northbend! I've been so busy getting all of the registration stuff finalized, I almost forgot to update BF!
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I’m in! Flights and room booked at the almost too skanky Symes in Hot Springs.

Thanks Dave!
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Thanks Dave. I'll see you all in Kila.
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I'm in! Anyone else camping at Alamedas? Now I guess I need to finish the PX10...

Thanks, Dave!
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