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Forgive me fellow C&Vers, but I have sinned
Early one morning a few weeks ago, @nlerner texts me that there's a Ritchey Breakaway CX in my frame size for sale, but it's listed on Craigslist in Santa Cruz, California. Neal knows I'm jealous of his S&S coupler modded Black Mountain Cycles bike. I'm very hopeful that we'll all be able to start travelling and touring on our bicycles in the not so distant future, so I negotiated with the seller to ship it to me (it comes in it's own special rollaround case!)
Here's the thing. It's got a threadless headset. Brifters. Outboard bearings. Not terribly C&V. Have mercy on me. It does have a steel frame and fork, however. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f9282fa622.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6925a89c45.jpg Shipping case next to my old travel bike https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cc73fec0ca.jpg Breakaway broken down First ride was a 30 miler. With daylight saving I had time to make it home before dark. There was some climbing, some gravel, and a good descent. Climbing showed me I needed the handebars up higher, gravel told me that it was a good gravel bike, and the descent through some fast turns showed that I needed to get used to a faster handling bike - most of my fleet is low trail. Oh, and the saddle is an a$$ hatchet. Another 30 mile ride with @Andy_K this morning after replacing the stem and saddle. The ride was very much a success, except the chain kept skipping in middle gears. Turns out it has an 8 speed cassette with 9 speed indexed shifting. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0686da2d81.jpg Universal Cycles Portland store moved out from Portland to Beaverton, which is much closer to my house, so I stopped by and picked up an 11-32 9 speed cassette. The chain appears to be a narrow model, we'll see if it plays nicely with the new cassette. It has room for very wide tires. Right now I'm running 700c x 35's, but there's clearly room for more. I think I can put fenders on with 35's and still have good clearance. There's a tour idea in the not so far future that I want to do that would require getting on a plane, and I like my big handlebar bags. so I'll torch up a rack that can be broken down flat to fit in the carrying case. I'm not sure if the fork is a keeper, it's a beefy unicrown low offset model, once I put the rack and a weighted handlebar bag I'm not sure it'll handle as well as I'd like, but that's to be seen. I'm also not crazy about the stopping power of the Cane Creek cantilevers, but those are easily replaced. So, I've got a bike with brifters. Don't hate me. |
I say why not! It's fun having a bit of the old, and the new. It'll be interesting to see as you switch back and forth between the 2 setups which shifting style you prefer. I've never tried brifters, but I can see how they're probably safer and definitely more convenient.
The Global Cycling Network guys have a cool video comparing the riding feel of a classic vs a modern. They keep saying the old style is cooler, but admit that the modern one feels stiffer and faster: |
I don’t even know you any more. What’s next, electronic shifting?
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They say you can't have too many bikes. I think you just proved why that rule is sometimes wrong, :p
I like modern bikes as well even though I've stopped riding mine ever since I decided to spend too much time hanging out on this site. |
Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
(Post 21978366)
I don’t even know you any more. What’s next, electronic shifting?
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Hey, it's got a triple--old man gearing, ftw!
And if this is a show-us-your-travel-bike-with-brifters thread, here's mine: https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...336375962.jpeg |
nlerner , that's a calendar-worthy shot; really beautiful. Where was it taken?
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Originally Posted by lajt
(Post 21978426)
nlerner , that's a calendar-worthy shot; really beautiful. Where was it taken?
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Originally Posted by lajt
(Post 21978426)
nlerner , that's a calendar-worthy shot; really beautiful. Where was it taken?
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Change that 11-32 to a 12-36 and put 48x45x30 on that triple and you have a super half step+.
Nice bike, I would take one like it. |
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gugie , good one on the train! That cracked me up.
Hey, you're a Portland guy--do they still have the Seattle to Portland bike ride? I used to work for a photographer back in the 80s and we used to shoot that one. I saw a lot of beautiful centuries doing that job, but the STP was probably the top. What a gorgeous ride from start to finish. |
Originally Posted by gugie
(Post 21978350)
Early one morning a few weeks ago, @nlerner texts me that there's a Ritchey Breakaway CX in my frame size for sale, but it's listed on Craigslist in Santa Cruz, California. Neal knows I'm jealous of his S&S coupler modded Black Mountain Cycles bike. I'm very hopeful that we'll all be able to start travelling and touring on our bicycles in the not so distant future, so I negotiated with the seller to ship it to me (it comes in it's own special rollaround case!)
Here's the thing. It's got a threadless headset. Brifters. Outboard bearings. Not terribly C&V. Have mercy on me. It does have a steel frame and fork, however. Shipping case next to my old travel bike Breakaway broken down First ride was a 30 miler. With daylight saving I had time to make it home before dark. There was some climbing, some gravel, and a good descent. Climbing showed me I needed the handebars up higher, gravel told me that it was a good gravel bike, and the descent through some fast turns showed that I needed to get used to a faster handling bike - most of my fleet is low trail. Oh, and the saddle is an a$$ hatchet. Another 30 mile ride with @Andy_K this morning after replacing the stem and saddle. The ride was very much a success, except the chain kept skipping in middle gears. Turns out it has an 8 speed cassette with 9 speed indexed shifting. Universal Cycles Portland store moved out from Portland to Beaverton, which is much closer to my house, so I stopped by and picked up an 11-32 9 speed cassette. The chain appears to be a narrow model, we'll see if it plays nicely with the new cassette. It has room for very wide tires. Right now I'm running 700c x 35's, but there's clearly room for more. I think I can put fenders on with 35's and still have good clearance. There's a tour idea in the not so far future that I want to do that would require getting on a plane, and I like my big handlebar bags. so I'll torch up a rack that can be broken down flat to fit in the carrying case. I'm not sure if the fork is a keeper, it's a beefy unicrown low offset model, once I put the rack and a weighted handlebar bag I'm not sure it'll handle as well as I'd like, but that's to be seen. I'm also not crazy about the stopping power of the Cane Creek cantilevers, but those are easily replaced. So, I've got a bike with brifters. Don't hate me. Best, Ben |
I, for one, see no sin here. Of course, I'm a godless heretic generally, so my blessing may not be worth much
I bought a Break-Away (road model) a few years back and put Campy 10sp triple on it. It is sitting in its case as I type this. I have only ridden it a very few times because I have not traveled nearly as much as I had envisioned. I would say it rides well. Not "it rides well for a break-apart frame" or some other qualifier, just "it rides well," full stop. Getting used to the ride is like getting used to the ride of any new ride. I doubt if you will be disappointed. From my limited experience, the Break-Away is a very fine option for a break-down travel bike. On word of caution - the dimensions of the bag are a hair bigger than the airline regs permit without an up-charge for oversize baggage. It's by a small amount and it does not look oversized. When I was checking into them the word was that people did not have any problems with airlines due to size, although the usual hijinks about trying to charge a premium because it's a bicycle was still a thing. I have no idea if that is still a problem, but a few years back it was a significant bone of contention. If an when you fly with it, be sure to check out your airline's regulations in advance and print them out to show baggage/check-in people who have their own ideas of what the rules are. |
Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(Post 21978494)
I, for one, see no sin here. Of course, I'm a godless heretic generally, so my blessing may not be worth much
I bought a Break-Away (road model) a few years back and put Campy 10sp triple on it. It is sitting in its case as I type this. I have only ridden it a very few times because I have not traveled nearly as much as I had envisioned. I would say it rides well. Not "it rides well for a break-apart frame" or some other qualifier, just "it rides well," full stop. Getting used to the ride is like getting used to the ride of any new ride. I doubt if you will be disappointed. From my limited experience, the Break-Away is a very fine option for a break-down travel bike. On word of caution - the dimensions of the bag are a hair bigger than the airline regs permit without an up-charge for oversize baggage. It's by a small amount and it does not look oversized. When I was checking into them the word was that people did not have any problems with airlines due to size, although the usual hijinks about trying to charge a premium because it's a bicycle was still a thing. I have no idea if that is still a problem, but a few years back it was a significant bone of contention. If an when you fly with it, be sure to check out your airline's regulations in advance and print them out to show baggage/check-in people who have their own ideas of what the rules are. |
I think I tweaked my neck from averting my eyes so much. Gugie who?
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Originally Posted by gugie
(Post 21978350)
...(.snipped a bunch) the descent through some fast turns showed that I needed to get used to a faster handling bike - most of my fleet is low trail....I'm not sure if the fork is a keeper, it's a beefy unicrown low offset model, once I put the rack and a weighted handlebar bag I'm not sure it'll handle as well as I'd like, but that's to be seen.
faster handling bike? I will buy different. and I not too long ago removed some offset from a bike I bought as it just felt...” wrong “ too willing to dart to and fro, but explain a bit more. At lunch I have taken a number of my bikes out for a quick comparison, the one I removed offset from, even exchanged forks with different offset... so how about a more in depth commentary? |
Convert an early 70's Raleigh to a 'Breakaway" and all will be forgiven...
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I just don't understand how it can maintain it's stiffness and agility with couplers...you would think they would flex and stretch.
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Nice score, enjoy!
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You shall be forever curs-ed.
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Though I prefer my vintage bikes I do not prefer them because they offer better ride quality or user friendliness. They are old, sporting dated technology and heavy by today's standards. However, I do like to find, restore and look at them. But when it is time for a serious rider, I too am a sinner. Not one of my older oldies compares to this newer oldie. I guess that that makes me a sinner or winner, depending on one's point of view...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...998659ccb5.jpg |
Originally Posted by davester
(Post 21978506)
I think I tweaked my neck from averting my eyes so much. Gugie who?
@juvela will mostly likely give this person a name, he's good at that...
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21978508)
so how about a more in depth commentary?
Originally Posted by bark_eater
(Post 21978621)
Convert an early 70's Raleigh to a 'Breakaway" and all will be forgiven...
Originally Posted by jdawginsc
(Post 21978625)
I just don't understand how it can maintain it's stiffness and agility with couplers...you would think they would flex and stretch.
Originally Posted by Sir_Name
(Post 21978634)
Nice score, enjoy!
One more thing I forgot to mention...it's (cough, cough), TIG welded... |
I'm a sinner as well
Circa 2000 Voodoo Wazoo CX and now gravel bike. TIG welded, thread less HS, and 8 speed Campy Ergo.....
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bb204d030.jpeg |
When new, did that version Breakaway frame not come with a fork or is that a replacement fork?
Neat bike- serves a great purpose. When you travel down to the Bay Area, will you bring this or use your bike that stays down there? |
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