Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Preserving Patina?

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Preserving Patina?

Old 04-15-21, 07:16 AM
  #26  
RustyJames 
Senior Member
 
RustyJames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 606

Bikes: You had me at rusty and Italian!!

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 243 Post(s)
Liked 343 Times in 180 Posts
Iím a fan of patina - hence the user name - and I do little or nothing beyond what others have recommended. Clean/degrease, re-grease, re-lube, etc. If you find rust-through on the frame thatís not good and it is likely scrap unless itís a VERY rare and valuable frame.
This may have been mentioned in previous posts but DO NOT use rust converter unless you want to amplify the patina. I have used BKF mixed into a paste and brushed onto the rusty areas. Wipe away with a damp cloth and then car wax.
My 2 cents...
RustyJames is offline  
Old 04-15-21, 08:05 AM
  #27  
Wileyone1
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Humanbeing757 View Post
Iím also building up a Ďpatinatedí bike. Iím planning to apply a coat of boiled linseed oil after Iíve cleaned the frame.
Apparently this is what Holdsworth's Putney shop did with their frames after they were done and waiting for paint. But I don't think they used boiled linseed oil probably raw linseed oil. Not sure how BLO would work on steel as a finish. Have you tried this before?
Wileyone1 is offline  
Old 04-15-21, 08:40 AM
  #28  
TCollen
So many roads ...
 
TCollen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Valley, NE -- where ALL roads are flat
Posts: 121

Bikes: 2013 Specialized Tricross, 1987 Schwinn Collegiate 3-speed (for short coffee runs)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Liked 95 Times in 48 Posts
It's not patina, it's character.
TCollen is offline  
Old 04-15-21, 11:06 AM
  #29  
Thommy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 56
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I agree all all the cleaning and touch up methods. Why hasn't anyone mentioned covering the rusted (patina) with a dull coat clear? Too many times I see old cars with nice patina clear coated with gloss clear. Never look right to me.
Thommy is offline  
Old 04-15-21, 05:10 PM
  #30  
bOsscO
bOsscO
 
bOsscO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 669

Bikes: 2015 Norco Search S1, 2012 Cervelo R5, 93 Mongoose IBOC COMP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 259 Post(s)
Liked 304 Times in 178 Posts
I know someone on BF noted there is a portmanteau that is a better word than patina to describe the this look for bike frames...but you think I could find the thread?
bOsscO is offline  
Old 04-15-21, 06:10 PM
  #31  
Fahrenheit531 
No Chain Lube Preference
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,894

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 454 Times in 244 Posts
Originally Posted by bOsscO View Post
I know someone on BF noted there is a portmanteau that is a better word than patina to describe the this look for bike frames...but you think I could find the thread?
Beausage?

Also, I generally preserve patina by leaving it alone.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Likes For Fahrenheit531:
Old 04-16-21, 02:54 AM
  #32  
Humanbeing757
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: GB
Posts: 24

Bikes: 1962 Dawes Realmrider 1984 Raleigh Record Ace 2009 Specialized Hardrock 2021 Whyte Sterling 1984 Al Carter Hot Rock 2013 Giant Defy 1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 12 Posts
I've not tried it before but there's got to be a first time for everything! It's on record as being used many times for bicycles, cars and motorcycles

I don't have enough posts to post pictures or links but check out Monkeyshred's videos on his YouTube channel... search for '1948 Norman Invader - Vintage Fixed Gear Rebuild - Oily Rag Restoration', '1935 Raleigh Sports Tourist - Vintage Bicycle "Oily Rag" Restoration' or '1946 Raleigh Superb Sports Tourist - Vintage Bike Restoration - Sympathetic Oily Rag'.

I gather that if you apply it neat you get a gloss finish and if you thin it with mineral spirits you get a more matt finish. It needs to be applied very very thinly otherwise it stays tacky and doesn't dry out.

If anyone here has done it before I'd love to hear any tips.

Last edited by Humanbeing757; 04-16-21 at 03:22 AM.
Humanbeing757 is offline  
Old 04-25-21, 10:21 AM
  #33  
Humanbeing757
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: GB
Posts: 24

Bikes: 1962 Dawes Realmrider 1984 Raleigh Record Ace 2009 Specialized Hardrock 2021 Whyte Sterling 1984 Al Carter Hot Rock 2013 Giant Defy 1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 12 Posts
Well, I’ve applied a thin coat of boiled linseed oil to my patinated frame today. I’m unsure how long to leave it to ‘dry’ before assembly. I’m thinking a week should be long enough. Sorry I can’t post pics 😔
Humanbeing757 is offline  
Likes For Humanbeing757:
Old 04-26-21, 01:20 PM
  #34  
Gold Country
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
BLO is definitely used in the automotive patina world. Usually dries surprisingly dry to the touch.
Gold Country is offline  
Old 04-26-21, 01:34 PM
  #35  
Humanbeing757
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: GB
Posts: 24

Bikes: 1962 Dawes Realmrider 1984 Raleigh Record Ace 2009 Specialized Hardrock 2021 Whyte Sterling 1984 Al Carter Hot Rock 2013 Giant Defy 1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 12 Posts
Well, so far so good. Finish looks super good. Dry to the touch today so I’ve wiped another thin coat onto it.

Only three more posts until I can post pics 😀
Humanbeing757 is offline  
Old 06-07-21, 09:38 AM
  #36  
Humanbeing757
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: GB
Posts: 24

Bikes: 1962 Dawes Realmrider 1984 Raleigh Record Ace 2009 Specialized Hardrock 2021 Whyte Sterling 1984 Al Carter Hot Rock 2013 Giant Defy 1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 12 Posts
OK, at last, here's the result of my experiment with boiled linseed oil.



I did two thin coats and it's dried hard and super shiny.



I'm super pleased with the end result.
Humanbeing757 is offline  
Old 06-07-21, 10:11 AM
  #37  
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,174

Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma

Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1209 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,199 Times in 705 Posts
I wax this old Legnano, now and again. I never leave it outside exposed to the sun and rain. I store it in a reasonably dry place. And I clean it after each ride when cleaning appears to be necessary...
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
randyjawa is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.