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Old 04-15-21, 01:12 AM
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Impulsive Peugeot deal

I impulsively bought a vintage Peugeot bike after seeing it on a local, online marketplace. I payed 60 for it. I have the original (at least I think it is original) drop handlebar with Weinmann brakelevers also.
I might be using it on a small trip in a few weeks. I love the fact that is has both front en back fenders and racks.
A few things that need attention:
  • Good cleaning and greasing
  • Missing front derailleur,
  • Tires are dry and need replacing,
  • All spokes need tension- checking, one needs to be replaced.
  • It needs new brake and shift cables
  • New front light (pure cosmetic, I'll bring battery powered, removable lights with me)
  • Other small stuff
What type/year would you reckon this Peugeot is? It has Weinmann brakes and a Peugeot rear derailleur. Gearing is a 3x5.
I'll have a closer look at a serial number on the BB later today.




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Old 04-15-21, 01:16 AM
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Hi , that was good buy !
Would say 83 based on that plasic head badge .
Have fun !
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Old 04-15-21, 03:58 AM
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Does the seat-tube have a single boss like a water-bottle boss about where the front mech would go?

Because if so it IS for the front mech, the Simplex A223 (the A222 is the double version). These are the only mechs that fit that boss (as far as I know); fortunately they are not expensive, and good mechs. They were also sold as badge-engineered Gimpiemme and Edco and possibly Sachs or something else.

There are a few of the double versions on that auctions site right now; the only triple has a broken clamp bit. You want the triple, it's easily distinguished, it has a much wider inner cage plate, it extends below the outer by a good half-inch.

EDIT: not *that* triple, a good one.

Oh, and for 60 euro that's a score, no question.

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Looks like it could be a PX-50s. If not, it's in the neighborhood.

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Old 04-15-21, 05:45 AM
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Your looks like a PX-50s from France...'82? (as Bill has pointed out)


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That's gorgeous! Seriously, I love the color, and this all seems fairly in tact... good score!
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Nice looking bike bikebakman . Please keep the pictures coming as you get this ready to go.
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Old 04-15-21, 01:49 PM
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Thank you for all replies and compliments and good to hear model and make of this Peugeot. I really like it too. Absolutely in love with the blue and chrome combination.
I made some close up pictures, see below.

oneclick Concerning the front mech, there is no boss on the seat tube. See pictures below. It seems it'll need a clamped derailleur. What type?




Serial number on the bracket. Can anyone identify?
[edit] Seriously, I just noticed it says PX50S [/edit]



When removing the back wheel, the rear derailleur got loose. I totally missed the absence of the hangar type derailleur mount! These older frames have another way of mounting the mech. I did some reading. Seems I'm missing a lock screw of some sort. Can I use a new screw from my toolbox instead?



On the left seat stay, a dynamo mounting is present. What kind of mounting is that?


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Your rear derailleur mounting is missing the special nut and bolt that slot into the dropout opening. See here for details: https://bike.bikegremlin.com/230/rear-derailleur/
Your rear generator mount will take standard Soubitez generators of the period, they will bolt right in with the head of the fixing bolt sliding into the groove on the frame mount and then being fastened down with the bolt. Be careful when purchasing as generators come for left and right hand mounting so make sure you get the correct replacement.
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Old 04-15-21, 02:31 PM
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Would that rear derailleur mounting nut/bolt be available somewhere? Anyone who got one to share?
[edit] Could I do with a ordinary M10 bolt with washer and nut? It doesn't look complicated.




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Originally Posted by bikebakman View Post
Would that rear derailleur mounting nut/bolt be available somewhere? Anyone who got one to share?
[edit] Could I do with a ordinary M10 bolt with washer and nut? It doesn't look complicated.

That's a common bit to loose, and to find at any good bike shop or co-op.

The screw doesn't really matter, but the bolt bit does - it has to have that step so it locates the slot of the rear mech in line with the dropout slot.
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Originally Posted by bikebakman;22016373
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oneclick[/utag] Concerning the front mech, there is no boss on the seat tube. See pictures below. It seems it'll need a clamped derailleur. What type?

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On the left seat stay, a dynamo mounting is present. What kind of mounting is that?
Any front mech will do, but if you want a Simplex to match the rear, the plastic ones are too fragile (even the LJ A302 I suspect it came with), so for a triple you are looking for an SJ A103.

As for the dynamo mount, I think there is supposed to be a bar with a (t least one) threaded hole in it that slides into that fitting; the dynamo attaches to the bar.
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Originally Posted by 1simplexnut View Post
Hi , that was good buy !
Would say 83 based on that plasic head badge .
Have fun !
Could be an 82, as my 82 PH10S had the same frame graphics and plastic head badge......
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Old 04-19-21, 08:27 AM
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I went to a LBS where I've never been before. Judging the interior of the shop, I immediately knew I was in the right place. It was a mess. Bicycle parts everywhere. It smelled after grease. I saw a Columbus Cromor Pinarello and an old Eddy Merckx amongst many others.

The owner fixed the Peugeot up and now she has a Huret front derailleur. Rear derailleur has the bolt in place. Brakes and commandeurs are working. She replaced the 5s pignon with a NOS one she had laying around! A new chain.
When I was talking about sourcing a headlight to match the bike, she gave me an small round one from a Motobecane. For free. It resamblances the 82 PX50S from the folder above.

Now onto new tires.
It currently has two different tires. The fattest on the back show Michelin 700x35c. Front has enough space to fit 35c. Any ideas about which tire would be a perfect match?

I also would be interested to know which bags on the front and rear rack would be a good match.
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You have made excellent progress! The tires might be replaced with Michelin Dynamic Classic in 700C x 32 which are gum walled and inexpensive. Bags are pricier. Berthoud makes rack top bags : https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/1002-sa...999-grise.html as well as handlebar bags: https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/134-han...nd-map-holders. For less expensive options search EBay France as they sometimes have older TA handlebar bags for sale.
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Originally Posted by bikebakman View Post
On the left seat stay, a dynamo mounting is present. What kind of mounting is that?

This is what the hardware setup looks like. I have other angles available if you need them. Believe it or not, the bolt head fits inside that and sits with the threaded shaft sticking outward. Then you put the U-shaped metal bar sits on top of the frame provision to cap things off. The dynamo goes on that metal bar, then the star washer, then the nut. The head of the bolt can slide back and forth in that slot to allow fine-tuning of the dynamo position. The lip you see on the frame slot won't let the bolt fall out. The U-shaped bracket is there to hold pressure without crushing the metal. The design is actually quite genius.

Go find a bolt whose head fits inside that bracket and slide it back and forth. It'll instantly make sense once you do that if these words are confusing. I think it's 10mm bolt head which normally fits, but maybe is 12mm.

Edit: I just want to say, you see the metal clip just above it? That's there to hold the wire, if this isn't clear. You'll probably see these clips also under the downtube of your main triangle, and in a few other key places. There is a specific method to route cables through fenders and such. If you need help with that, feel free to ask, I can give some tips.

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Old 04-21-21, 05:05 AM
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You have made excellent progress! The tires might be replaced with Michelin Dynamic Classic in 700C x 32 which are gum walled and inexpensive. Bags are pricier. Berthoud makes rack top bags : https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/1002-sa...999-grise.html as well as handlebar bags: https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/134-han...nd-map-holders. For less expensive options search EBay France as they sometimes have older TA handlebar bags for sale.
Thank you! Tires-tip much appreciated. I was looking at more gravel oriented tires but once the word "gravel" is linked to a bike-accessories or -part, the price triples.
Boy, these bags are pricey indeed! Beautiful but pricey. I would be scared to leave my bike unattended with these bags on it while doing groceries or something. I need to re-think about this upgrade.
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These 32-622 Michelin Dynamic Classics are hard to find. None of the shop I know, sell these. All they have these days are Schwalbe. And Schwalbe don't make gum walled. Any other brand which is widely available?
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You might want to try one of the on line sellers like SJS in the UK. They sell gum wall Panaracer Paselas in the 700C x 32 or 35 size you need. Pricier than the Michelins, unfortunately. https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tyres/70...0-622/?geoc=CA

Bags other than Berthoud are available such as Acorn from the United States but COVID shipping restrictions may apply. https://www.acornbags.com/

Other on line retailers sell mass produced bags for less such as the Bicycle Warehouse. https://bicyclewarehouse.com/collections/handlebar-bags
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Old 04-22-21, 05:29 AM
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I ordered a pare of Michelin World Tour, 700x35, gum wall tires.
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That sounds like a bike shoppe that deserves business!
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In the meantime I've been riding the Peugeot with much joy. The bike gives me a relaxed vibe. I realized I never showed you the upgrades.

With the new tires

With the new custom made bag
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