Ciocc frame ID
 

Hello, i've trying to find information about a not-well maintained Ciocc steel frame. Some details say that might be a San Cristobal, but others dont.
You can see that it has Campy dropouts, Cinelli "spoiler" bottom bracket with "Ciocc" panto, italian threaded. I know that this BB was produced starting 84' so should be something between 84' and 92'.
Could be great to know model and year if possible.
Please check out photos in this PDF, thanks!!

(please delete the spacing in the link, given Im newbie I am not able to put links or photos)
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Even with the trix I cannot view your linked pix. There is another way which is to upload pix to your "Gallery" and one of us can view and copy them.
I have an early San Cristobal which has a conventional BB shell with "club" piercing and I have a later Bonati-built (after Pellizioli sold out) frame which does have a Cinelli "spoiler" BB shell Both great bikes but the early one has a certain extra bit of charm.

Link to OP's pics https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dkE...QNseamjjz/edit

The Columbus tube decal on fork indicates Columbus SLX/SPX/TSX and no older than 1988. I don't think it would extend past the early 1990s. Ciocc model names often varied by market and this one my be bon-USA based on the absence of a pump peg, so I'll defer on the model. Is the rear spacing 126mm or 130mm? You should check the insides of the tubes at the BB shell junction to verify if they have the five helical ridges indicative of SLX/SPX/TSX. With SLX/SPX the ridges only extend about 10cm up into the down tube but on TSX they are the full length. Based on the size of frame it shouldn't be SPX but his can be determined from the seat post diameter. SPX would use 27.0mm, while SLX and TSX use 27.2mm

Great candidate for restoration...someone seems to have taken a course file on parts of it to get rust or paint off? Beauty in the making!

Looks like the OP has begun paint-stripping, and has a bit of rust to deal with, too. Thanks for making the pix available, T-Mar! The OP's shares many details with my "later" Ciocc: same BB shell (as mentioned) and same panto on top, but also same internal TT cable routing, same lugs, same brake bridge, but mine had no chrome on the main frame (and came with a Bianchi fork so...) plus was determined to be Columbus SL.
Good news is the OP should be able to find those "Rasta" decals pretty easily so worth a full quality re-spray with good masking, etc.
If I can do it I will post a pic here of what Ed Litton did to my rough frame (he made it look like a million $$!)
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Extra information
 

Thanks to all comments!! Specially the one who made the photos available.
Rear spacing is 126mm and it uses a 27,2 seatpost (so probably SLX)
Looks very simmilar to the red CIOCC posted -regarding finishes- but with the chrome parts. Maybe the black/gray painting remaining in this frame was not original either.
Any clues about some model name? Is this made in Italy?

Yes made in Italy almost certainly by the firm that was run by 2 Bonati brothers and one Conti, they were somewhere in the greater Milano area and sold bikes under the Ciocc, Conti and John brands, and certainly built for others, too. I think the paint (could be what they called Anthracite, a very dark gray) could be the original and probably you'll find the entire rear is chrome plated. (but roughed to allow better paint adhesion where painted).
I love mine, you probably will love yours, too!
Keep us posted with pix as your build progresses.

Given the 126mm spacing, I'd date this frame to 1988-1990, as I believe Campagnolo introduced 130mm freehubs across all their road groups in 1991.

Amazing guys, thanks for all the usefull information you've been giving to me about this frame.
Im managing to get the decals now. Given that i dont know the correct model I will not add any model decals (like San Cristobal or Mockba specifics).
Final idea is a Ciocc Strada 1977 (google it in photos and the first result is a light blue metalized frame from Facebook), I cannot add photos yet. Colour is pretty simmilar to the Cinelli Laser light blue.
Will be equipped with Campy Super or Nuovo Record!

My decal set came with a "Designer 84" decal for the top tube which seems like the default decal (which became the default "model Name") on many Ciocc frames that were otherwise quite different in details. So jump on the wagon and call yours that (or don't), Ed Litton chopped off the date so mine just says "Designer"

Hello all, and thanks for the advices.
The frame result to be a later manufacture of the Designer 84' (after long research) given the absence of the seatstays pantograph.
Given im not able to post links because I'm newbie, find below the link to the final look of the frame. (you need to delete the 5 spaces between to see the link propperly)
Let me know your thougts!

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